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Thread: My Progress [Hyp] [21]

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    Cool My Progress [Hyp] [21]

    yo guys it's been a pleasure chilling around these forums since
    "14-10-12" haha, in the 2 and a bit months i'd just like to share my progress because to me it has been a life changing experience...about two years ago i'd read some PU stuff, watched a few movies and not really applied them, took a year and a bit off my personal development and got back into it for good this time, it's paid off well

    for those who don't really know current state, i'm recovering from an injury and waiting for it to heal before i attempt to get into PU properly, mainly cause i don't want to start something i can't finish, even if the opportunity to only please her can be done, i know it's selfish but i don't want to get used to doing it and then ejecting

    Being Alpha (THANKS CODY) is one of the most important things (i'm not going to say it's the only one because there's alot of aspects that are of equal importance ) mainly because it truly separates the man from the AFC, there are so many things i've come to realise that calls for being alpha, and if you don't nut out all the kid crap then you'll still be beta,
    and being the AMOG is pretty intense stuff, i'm still bad at it mainly because i never stood up for myself in highschool or when my mates gave me sh1t, so i'm actively trying to change it, one of the main things i've come to notice is that when you challenge the AMOG, he'll just keep trying to shut you down, but then to be the bigger man you need to shut him down in a sense, it's good fun though

    I may have a leg up here only cause my ex was pretty playful in texting, but reading Tmals guide and mixing it with frame control from Red Baron, has heightened my text game soooooo much it's indescribable, i've set up dates in really abstract ways, one like diehard when hes told to get to the payphone, in second person, third person and "normal" haha but yeah i never would've been able to do that without the help from you guys

    Talking to women in general, i don't know what it is, and for me i always used to make it a big deal, but now that i've had my head checked in, they're no different to my mates, or people in general, just because they're attractive doesn't mean we have to put them as higher value, i don't do this anymore and it's fqcking awesome, they know i don't care and they become even more responsive, having my injury probably has helped with this but talking to new women has made it surprisingly easier because to me i know nothings going to happen so i can try different stuff on them and it usually comes off quite well, and one more thing, women aren't b1tches they're really nice creatures, but when your doing unproductive stuff after the first 20 seconds, it's pretty much the deal breaker because they're wondering why you're talking to them, i wonder the same when i get approached

    now, for the newcomers, kino is seriously probably the most underestimated "tool," i never used to do it and i got absolutely no where, over the past month and a bit i've been getting kino in where possible and running my own routines / dhvs with the mix and you can tell the difference, especially when you're speaking with a passion (i'm not sure what it is when you're touching them and speaking passionately but it makes me more attractive) haha, if anyone has veins that stick out like a junkie, using that routine to generate alot of kino works like a huge charm

    so yeah i guess i'd like to wrap up with it's been what like 60 or 70 days and just my inner game as had a hugeeeee transformation also, this is one of best mindsets i've adopted and yeah i see the results 1000%, i don't give a fqck what people think of me or what she thinks of me
    obviously i'm not a complete douchebag but i make things fun and that's that, she's not going to bring me down nor are you

    a huge thanks to::not in order )::: Supremo, Red Baron, Bill P, Cody, Anuks, Dalton and everyone else that's assisted me on my journey so far !!!!

    when i'm not injured i'll put my first field report up, i've had the chance to put some up prior but they're non-worthy, you guys understand (y)

    oh yeah, to all the guys who want to go back to their ex'es because they like her, ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND, to all the guys who want to go back to their ex'es because you love her, FQCKING DO IT but get help first <---Don't idolise her please

    ++Maybe i'm too young and i don't know if Cody had an influence on me but the reason why he left, i feel the same, i'm not going to leave but all i'm seeing is people who are, not hopeless, but inexperienced asking the exact same questions thinking it's a unique question, no kidding i get where you're coming from, i've been there, i'll try and help as much as i can, but there's only so much i can say over and over before i need a break!

    ooooooooooo huge thanks to Linking and Red Baron for assisting with my peacocking, jump on the peacocking train and you won't regret it

    and don't underestimate the power of friendzoning, i had a chick friend who wanted me bad and there was no way i was going to lead her on, i friendzoned her, she was like ?!?!!?!?what do u mean?!?!?!?! cause we both gave each other ioi's haha what women do to us we can do to them! if it puts your mind at ease, do it

    <3 Hyp

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    Default Re: My Progress [Hyp] [21]

    "nd being the AMOG is pretty intense stuff, i'm still bad at it mainly because i never stood up for myself in highschool or when my mates gave me sh1t, so i'm actively trying to change it, one of the main things i've come to notice is that when you challenge the AMOG, he'll just keep trying to shut you down, but then to be the bigger man you need to shut him down in a sense, it's good fun though"

    - Actually, a true alpha male will not do this. Challenges to an alpha male's status in the group should be funny to him, he'll keep his rank and not do anything to lower it because he knows he has nothing to worry about. He is the leader of the group and if anyone threatens his group, he destroys them.

    "Like when a 4-year-old girl tells her Daddy what to do. Daddy doesn't get mad, he just laughs and hugs her cause it's so cute, and then does what he wants. This is how you handle it." - Jack Bauer

    I'm glad to see that you're progressing on your journey to becoming not just a successful PUA, but a successful man in Life. That is the true goal, we must never forget it. Game is about reaching your full potential and discovering the very best of what's within you.
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    Default Re: My Progress [Hyp] [21]

    Yo man. I feel like you have just written out the story of life for the last two months. And 2 years.

    I also started 2yrs ago reading PUA books and getting into it. But I never ever tried it and so assumed it didn't work. I then started again about two months ago, that same week as you haha. And have put all the basics into practice; the body laguage and working towards being alpha male aswell as basic Kino techniques and they proved fruitful to number closing and getting peoples attention.

    The one thing I wasn't ready for though was another guy trying to shut me down ALL the time because, once I became alpha he decided to exile himself from the group (I was at a small house party where there was only one small intermate group of people interacting, amazing atmosphere) and it only worked againts him. But I handled it well because I'm decent at improvising having recievd Honours in high school for dramatic arts.

    Its actually really cool to see that some one who "started" at the same time as me is also seeing the fruits of his labour. It helps me a lot in knowing that I'm alright and making good progress like you.

    Would like stay in contact with you man and learn anything from you and vise- versa.

    -Animated21

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    Default Re: My Progress [Hyp] [21]

    I have to agree with hyp with regards to the AMOG. No offense Stealth but to when an alpha male status is challenged he needs to make sure he keeps his status. It's not a case of him lowering his worth by challenging someone else. That is how he got his alpha male status. One does not simply enter a mixed set and assume AMOG status. Human AMOG status is exactly like many creatures in the animal kingdom. For example in a pride of lions you have the alpha male who mates with all the females. He constantly has other males entering his pride and challenging him for AMOG status. He does not just sit there but in fact fights any contenders. If he does not do this then he will be seen as beta and will lose the females. Indeed some guys take amogging the wrong way and all the turn out to be is a$$holes but a true AMOG knows how to handle things in a gentleman like manner.

    Just to add to your point of going back to your ex. Wake the f*#k up. It ended for a reason whether it be your fault or hers. If people truly love each other a relationship will never end no matter what. Don't be sad it's over, be happy that it happened. Move on hook up with other ladies and you will more the likely realize you didn't live your ex as much as you thought you did.

    Props to hyp you have been entertaining and have taught me a few things too

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    Default Re: My Progress [Hyp] [21]

    Quote Originally Posted by hyp View Post
    i'll try and help as much as i can, but there's only so much i can say over and over before i need a break!


    <3 Hyp

    Copy and paste, bro

    Keep up the good work!
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    Default Re: My Progress [Hyp] [21]

    Quote Originally Posted by Supremo View Post
    I have to agree with hyp with regards to the AMOG. No offense Stealth but to when an alpha male status is challenged he needs to make sure he keeps his status. It's not a case of him lowering his worth by challenging someone else. That is how he got his alpha male status. One does not simply enter a mixed set and assume AMOG status. Human AMOG status is exactly like many creatures in the animal kingdom. For example in a pride of lions you have the alpha male who mates with all the females. He constantly has other males entering his pride and challenging him for AMOG status. He does not just sit there but in fact fights any contenders. If he does not do this then he will be seen as beta and will lose the females. Indeed some guys take amogging the wrong way and all the turn out to be is a$$holes but a true AMOG knows how to handle things in a gentleman like manner.

    Just to add to your point of going back to your ex. Wake the f*#k up. It ended for a reason whether it be your fault or hers. If people truly love each other a relationship will never end no matter what. Don't be sad it's over, be happy that it happened. Move on hook up with other ladies and you will more the likely realize you didn't live your ex as much as you thought you did.

    Props to hyp you have been entertaining and have taught me a few things too

    You misunderstand me. I didn't say anything about entering a foreign group and assuming alpha male status? Re-read what I wrote. I'm the leader of my Tribe, and I've never had a single male attempt to challenge my leadership to my tribe. As I said, if someone challenges your leadership, which is rare, a true alpha male does not have to worry about losing his rank. And as I stated afterwards, if someone Threatens the group, then he destroys them. If someone comes in and farks with one of your people, you destroy them.

    There is a difference between another male challenging you for your leadership of the group and threatening it.

    Eg: I'm at the club with a group of friends, let's say 4 girls and 1 of my boys who's good with women. A guy we don't know comes in and starts gaming one of our girls. Will I let him do so? I will gauge how receptive the girl in my group is to him, and if she looks like she's having a good time and isn't freaked out by him, I will let it happen. My number priority as the leader is that everyone is safe and having a good time. Why would I crush a guy who finds one of the girls in my group attractive and has the balls to approach her, especially if she's enjoying the interaction and having a good time? I'm not interested in these 4 girls by the way, I have friend-zoned them all and go out with them because they're an awesome time and are great for pre-selection+social proofing.

    Onwards.

    Now if the same situation occurs, and the guy is being creepy, needy, I can tell one of the girls isn't receptive to him, or she blatantly tells me/gives me signs that she wants nothing to do with him, then that's where I come in and take control of the situation. That is the alpha male's roll, to ensure the protection of his tribe and to destroy the anyone who threatens my people if they don't buzz off after she tells him that she's not interested. If you are skilled enough to consistently pick-up women, you should be verbally skilled enough defuse a situation with a male threatening your group without the use of force. Of course there are times where there'll be no choice in the matter, and that's when you do what you have to do.


    Eg #2: Challenging me for the leadership of the Group.
    In my 2 1/2 years in college, I've never had this occur to me once and as I said, it's rare that I've seen it happen. I believe in my first post I said that when the alpha male is challenged, it's important to keep his rank. It should be second-nature to him. Would I be concerned someone else tried to out-alpha me in my group of friends? Of course not. I've already naturally established myself as the leader, and it's not for no reason that my leadership has been accepted by the group. Someone in my group thinks that another guy has better leadership abilities? Great, they may leave whenever they please, I'm not stopping them. I have no doubts regarding my abilities to lead the group, and you will not be missed. Thus, holding rank. If there's a situation where my leadership is constantly verbally challenged by a male in front of my friends and it threatens the security of the group, well, you know what happens afterwards.
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    Default Re: My Progress [Hyp] [21]

    I think you misunderstood me too. Firstly "destroy" is a harsh term to use. Just so there's no confusion, I'm not talking about embarrassing or humiliating a guy verbally or physically but rather about keeping your AMOG status, as I stated, in a gentleman like manner.

    So you are the leader of your tribe and you feel like you don't need to protect your status, thats great, but i believe that could be because you are not interested in the girls in your "tribe". It would be a different story should you be actively gaming the women in your group.

    For example: Lets say I am out with a large group of people and there happens to be one or two ladies I am interested in. If I am actively gaming these ladies and another male enters and starts amogging me, I will not just sit back and laugh it off. I will not just amog a random guy just because i can. But that doesn't mean I am going to be an a$$hole to the guy either. Now lets say I am in your situation where I am not interested in the ladies in the group then of course I'm not going to AMOG a guy who tries to game them unless the ladies make it clear that they don't want him around. Even then I will talk to the guy and ask him to leave without making him look like an idiot. In other words I will politely ask him to leave and amogging will not be necessary.

    Amogging is necessary when someone threatens your opportunity to "mate" with a female or females in your group, so obviously if that is not your intention with the ladies in your group then there will be no need to AMOG.

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    Default Re: My Progress [Hyp] [21]

    as far as the AMOG debate goes,(i didn't read any of your arguments cause they are pointless) it doesn't matter how you keep your amog status as long as you keep it. at first you will get into intense "p!ssing matches" to keep your status. depending on how alpha the other guy is. sometimes the easiest way to amog someone is to just flat out tell him to go away. but yes someone who is really good at amogging can do it by building others up to build his status and keep from damaging anyones status. but like i said it really doesn't matter how you keep your status as long as you keep it.

    that said there is a difference between amogging and downright bullying. don't cross the line and hurt peoples self esteem any more than you have to to get them to leave the set. i know how it feels to get amogged and it makes amogging that much sweeter. especialy when i amog guys who had amogged me before i was a pua.

    use your head, be respectful but don't let other guys walk all over you and take your wonen

    oh and btw i'm glad you've come so far. now its time to shoot for the stars! i have a feeling you will be getting lots of woman this coming year. i want to see somefeild reports! cheers! and have a happy new years!

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    Default Re: My Progress [Hyp] [21]

    You know, this discussion on what to do exactly as the AMOG is out of control, and here's why: A true alpha male is completely himself, sais what he wants, does what he wants and if people want to be around him it's because they like him for who he is.

    So, be yourself without holding back or apologising for it. That's being the alpha male. So then why the hell are you guys discussing into detail what to do in certain situations? You do what you think is best. Whatever you feel like doing is what you should and if you're honest and direct, you'll be seen as a leader anyways.

    Don't worry about leading the group. It's not something you should be concerning yourself with all the time. If you see a girl in your group being hit on by someone she doesn't seem to like, just walk in and save her from him. You don't have to be the AMOG to do so - just an alpha male because you'd do what you feel like doing.

    If another guy steps in and wants to become the AMOG - don't try to destroy him. fark that. Just be completely yourself and be comfortable doing so and you'll be indestructable. If some dude walks in without knowing you guys and tries to take over the group, he's most likely a douchebag and your group will see so soon enough anyways.

    Just sit back and don't worry about anything but being yourself rather than how to lead a group.


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