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    Default Re: Bit of a specific situation (Korean girl)

    Kisses are important, so she probably wouldn't do it until late. Remember that for a lot of girls who grew up in Asian culture, "kissing" means "we are boyfriend/girlfriend", so that's kind of a big deal

    For holding hands, you shouldn't have issues if you do it casually. Go to cross the street, and right when you see an opening, grab her hand without looking and make her cross the street running. And be sure to drop it as soon as you're on the other side
    Seduction is a martial art. Reading books and talking to experts is important, and helpful. But you won't progress unless you go out there and fight.

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    Default Re: Bit of a specific situation (Korean girl)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikalichov View Post
    Kisses are important, so she probably wouldn't do it until late. Remember that for a lot of girls who grew up in Asian culture, "kissing" means "we are boyfriend/girlfriend", so that's kind of a big deal

    For holding hands, you shouldn't have issues if you do it casually. Go to cross the street, and right when you see an opening, grab her hand without looking and make her cross the street running. And be sure to drop it as soon as you're on the other side
    I like the holding hands thing. Will have to try and get a good moment for that.

    Update:

    My friend said im seeing her too much.

    The date in my previous post was on a sunday. I met her at the gym on tuesday and spontaneously asked her out to dinner. She mentioned her bf again but was complaining about something about him. She also asked if i have a gf.

    Was a bit awkward at first but when the rapport and comfort came back it was pretty good and intimate.

    Was walking with my hand around her waist again and i asked her after a while if it still made her uncomfortable. She said yes (cultural thing again) but she didnt want to say anything in case i got embarassed. So i said "oh i can stop easy, see?" and took my arm away. She pretty much instantly reached out and grabbed my shoulder, then walked with her hand on my shoulder and rubbed my back a bit.

    When i kissed her cheek this time she didnt blush or anything - seemed like she was expecting it.

    Then i saw her wednesday for about 30 mins just to show her a shop where she can buy a mask (we're going to a club on friday night and it's a masquerade party). Again, good Kino and stuff though i felt dissatisfied when she left. Dunno if it was just me. She replied to my text a bit slower that night (maybe me overanalysing - she could have been busy but she'd been replying pretty much straight away since our first date).

    Anyway, saw her at the gym again today. Normal interaction. She probably doesnt want her clients to think we're dating.

    Tomorrow we go clubbing. I'm hoping to finally get my kiss.

    Kissing traditional asian girls - just keep pushing for it unless they physically shove away?

    So even if she turns her head or leans away i should keep going?

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    Default Re: Bit of a specific situation (Korean girl)

    I am currently living in South Korea and my girlfriend is Korean in which I have been with her for 1 year now. The best thing you can do is read Redpoleq he is a Asian pua and has seminars boot camps throughout Asia. Korean women are totally different so be prepared for erratic behavior and jealousy. Also don't ask Korean guys about dating Korean women because this is a homogeneous society and they don't want no one dating them except for them. Like I said the best thing to do is go to Redpoleq's website and check it out. Good luck man

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    Default Re: Bit of a specific situation (Korean girl)

    She flaked on me for clubbing. Said she wanted to go but her friend pulled out. I'm guessing she's not comfortable enough to go clubbing alone with me. Fair enough. I went out and had fun anyway.

    Saw her at the gym this morning. I acted dramatic about my hangover and she came over and rubbed my head and said "wake up" then gave me a mouthful of her bottle of creatine.

    I asked her out to rock climbing tomorrow. She's never done it but she's fit and competitive so she should enjoy it. Plus i think it'll set me out from the rest of the guys who do boring dates.

    I still havent kiss closed her (damn freaking hell) she leans away from me a bit every time she thinks im going for a kiss. But the same time we have a lot of non-kiss Kino (not even just me initiating it any more).

    I still have no idea how im going to go for it so i guess i just keep pushing and trust that she has enough attraction for me that even if she rejects me it wont ruin my chances in the future.

    Damn it's tough. If only she was single.

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    Default Re: Bit of a specific situation (Korean girl)

    I'm glad you are coming along well. The previous posts are all good advice. It is true that Korean guys (especially the FOBs) don't like non-Asian guys dating their women. My white friend's girl was Korean and when he went to a Korean nightclub, he got the major staredown.

    So I would keep her away from anything that is Korean (avoid Korean nightclubs, restaraunts, karaoke, etc). Try to create a new experience for her as it sounds like you are doing.

    Yea, it sucks that she has a bf. I feel you bro. I'm in the same boat as you with a HB who is in an on/off relationship (except I'm an Asian dude dating a white girl lol).

    It's a sucky situation because technically you are sharing her and competing. But I guess that's what us Venusian artists do. Sometimes we gotta compete. But we always got a choice whether to or not as no girl is worth putting on a pedestal. As long as you stay confident and remain unaffected by it, you got an edge. A lot of FOB Korean guys are the jealous chauvanistic type.

    But because you got as far as you did, it is obvious that she is attracted to you. So that's good. Chances are her bf is Korean and a typical one and she is not happy with him. You are a breath of fresh air and a new experience for her. So it's a new experience vs. something she is comfortable with but not happy with.

    But whatever you do, keep that alpha shield up at all times and do not drop your guards. The last thing you want is getting hurt if all fails. If all fails, she's got her Korean bf to go back to and you are SoL. You probably dig this chick, your mettle is being tested, but you gotta stay strong. That's why PUA's have more than one girl. WE CHOOSE.

    Keep that attraction flowing. It should be like a roller coaster ride for her. As you see her more and more, then it's a matter of chemistry. You either got it or you don't. You might see red flags and that may be a factor to letting her go, until then enjoy yourself and don't get attached.

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    I.M. Mortal nailed it. Sounds pretty good though man, I'm happy for ya. She may have lied about the boyfriend thing anyway just as a Sh1t Test. I was reading a great post recently about how to debunk boyfriends. Basically, you try to defend them if the subject comes. "I'm sure he's the most fun, adventurous guy you've ever met!" She'll start saying, "Well, we have issues..." you keep at it. "I'm sure he's doing his best, he probably hasn't been with many women." Make him sounds like the most insecure creature on the planet. Probably a karma alert on that one though.

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    Default Re: Bit of a specific situation (Korean girl)

    Quote Originally Posted by Lancelot View Post
    I.M. Mortal nailed it. Sounds pretty good though man, I'm happy for ya. She may have lied about the boyfriend thing anyway just as a Sh1t Test. I was reading a great post recently about how to debunk boyfriends. Basically, you try to defend them if the subject comes. "I'm sure he's the most fun, adventurous guy you've ever met!" She'll start saying, "Well, we have issues..." you keep at it. "I'm sure he's doing his best, he probably hasn't been with many women." Make him sounds like the most insecure creature on the planet. Probably a karma alert on that one though.
    Oh actually i read this one. You sort of backhandedly talk up the bf to a level where he can't possibly stand and she has to deny that he satisfies her for those things (like the quotes you gave).

    Thanks as well I.M. Mortal - you're right i think the old vs new is very powerful. I've been playing on that aspect a lot lately.

    Today took her rock climbing. First time ever and she had an amazing time. She kept thanking me for the date so I said "i'm glad I can show you new experiences" and it seemed to make her really happy.

    I think rock climbing is an amazing date idea. It automatically builds comfort because you have one person belaying you (pretty much holding the slack of the rope so you dont fall) and that builds trust. Plus you can tease them about not letting you die - etc.

    Anyway, i think i partied too hard on the weekend (without her - though i made sure she knew i was out having fun) and got super dry/chapped lips (probably dehydration from alcohol). I never used to drink much until i became single.

    So yeah, i was a bit uncomfortable with my lips and i didnt want that feeling to seep through into my game so i didnt try to kiss her (damn). I kissed her shoulders though. And hugged her from behind around the waist. She finally lets me hold her hand while we're walking too and she gave me a massage. I think im going pretty well though i still wish i could kiss her.

    Thanks as always for the advice guys. Honestly, it just clears my head bouncing ideas around.

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    Nice man! Sounds great. You're being pretty hard on yourself about the kiss, but it sounds like things are moving right along. There's a pretty easy one. "I'm trying so hard not to kiss you right now," turn away slightly, and turn back. Draw a little 'C' from her forehead to her chin. Move in. Something else you can do is periodically take your gaze to her lips as she talks, as this is supposed to elicit a subconscious sexual impulse. I've found it to be pretty effective.

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    Default Re: Bit of a specific situation (Korean girl)

    Quote Originally Posted by Lancelot View Post
    Nice man! Sounds great. You're being pretty hard on yourself about the kiss, but it sounds like things are moving right along. There's a pretty easy one. "I'm trying so hard not to kiss you right now," turn away slightly, and turn back. Draw a little 'C' from her forehead to her chin. Move in. Something else you can do is periodically take your gaze to her lips as she talks, as this is supposed to elicit a subconscious sexual impulse. I've found it to be pretty effective.
    The gazing at her lips thing sounds good ill try that.

    Odd though - despite all the IOIs she still doesnt really text me much. Maybe it's the language barrier. But i was under the impression korean girls would text heaps.

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    Default Re: Bit of a specific situation (Korean girl)

    I wouldn't worry too much about the frequency of a girl texting you. That will vary from girl to girl. In your case, it could be the language thing. Some korean and Asian girls in general are shy about their English (not sure how proficient your girl is). And at the same time, I knew some (particularly Japanese girls) who were really good in English and try to use it as much as possible.

    But, in general, I stand by my answer that texting will vary from girl to girl. I wouldn't place too much value in it or be anxious about it. It's not a deal breaker.

    Just take comfort that if she does initiate text with you, it's an emotional checkpoint passed. That means she is thinking of you in the midst of her busy schedule.


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