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    Default Bit of a specific situation (Korean girl)

    Hey guys, first post but I've been reading a lot the past few days. I'm about to get out of a LTR and part of what's giving me the courage to do that is this Korean PT at my gym. But yeah, since I've been out of the market for 4 years I have no game at all. I do know some concepts/theories from listening to my friends talk though (plus what I've been reading lately).

    Honestly, if it was any other girl I think I'd be alright but this one's a bit particular. First, she's only been in the country 2 years so her English isn't great. We can communicate but it takes a bit more effort (probably more on her part). Second, I see her at least twice a week at the gym regardless of whatever game plan I have going on. Third, I've heard Korean dating is a lot different to Western. I'm aware attraction is universal but I'm sure there's some cultural spin on this.

    I hope some of you have experience with Korean girls ... I think she's older than me (haven't brought up age yet) but no idea how old.

    So far I think I'm just skating by on my good looks (not to brag - I have no game since I was in a LTR but I'm tall and muscular).

    A few things: I text her more than I should (if it were any other girl). This is because I've heard Korean girls expected you to text a lot. Not sure if this applies to the chase or only when you're already together. As a result I've been saying goodnight and goodmorning (which she has replied to every time except the last night).

    I can't be cocky funny because she doesn't get it so I just smile and be confident and kino. I think I need to escalate soon though but I have work and so does she (she takes it pretty seriously which I find attractive since my last girl had no sense of responsibility).

    Since we see each other in the gym (often while she's working - training someone) I'm not even sure how to act. I don't want to fuck up her work by butting in all the time but at the same time it doesn't feel normal to not do stuff with her after the texts I've been getting. Even when she's not with clients she's still trying to work out (but she is much more receptive to conversation when she's not with clients).

    Anyway, fast forward - here's the progress I've made so far.

    Introduced myself. She was a bit nervous/intimidated (and she was working) so I exited quick.

    Got her number next time I saw her (she was alone, not with a client this time). She didn't really hesitate to give it to me.

    First night of texting good. Lots of IOIs (or just straight up compliments? Stuff like how I have a perfect body, height, broad shoulders, etc.)

    Second night of texting, a bit less enthusiastic.

    Third day, I see her at the gym (as usual). Bit of kino, she seems comfortable with me touching her. She touches me back when I'm about to leave. However, conversation doesn't flow amazingly. It's decent - same old. Not really as good as I expected given her initial ioi.

    Third night, not much texting going on. I teased her a bit and she didn't respond (she normally always wears a jumper but she wore a tank top that day at the gym so I said "First time seeing you without a jumper! Trying to impress someone? "). This was the longest she didn't respond to any of my texts. I ended up saying goodnight a few hours after and she replied a few minutes later saying she was having dinner and saying goodnight back to me. I get the feeling she doesn't respond well to teasing at all.

    Fourth night, (Friday! No more work) I get a good texting convo going. I manage to get her to say something along the lines of "teach me how to dance". I also try and lock in a day to meet up with her for some 1on1. She said sure but after her clients. When I asked when she's finished with her work she said not sure.

    Fifth night (Saturday now). Fucking raining like shit or I would have called her out. Texted once in the morning. No reply all day. Once again at night. No reply.

    Sixth day (today). Haven't texted her since. Saw her at the gym. Same old. I kino a bit - hand on her waist when I say goodbye. She touches my arm when I leave. I did ask when she was done for the day but she said "I have a bbq on remember" (she told me about it earlier). I should have asserted myself but I just said "oh yeah" then forgot what I said after that. Anyway, that was my fuck up.



    Not sure where to go from here. Was thinking I won't text her for a night and a day and then text her tomorrow night (I'll see her the day after - Tuesday - at the gym, she always has a client then).

    I know I really need to take her out soon. Reckon it can wait another week for the weekend or do I have to do it on a work day?

    What's with the random silence. I'm pretty sure she's still interested in me (maybe a bit less than at first though). Need to escalate soon?

    Am I being too forward? There was one text where she said "I also hope I can be friendly with you" (not sure if she meant LJBF or not). I replied "Just friends? We will see hehe. Goodnight [nickname]." That was the best I could come up with then...

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    Default Re: Bit of a specific situation (Korean girl)

    I would definitely lay off the texting- it sounds needy from your description. What is she, HB1-10? Also, she's probably self consious about the English. You've built up some kind of rapport though, even though she's a Hired Gun- congrats on that.

    I had an experience some time ago with a Japanese woman who'd only been here for a year, so I'm going to think back to that. She responded to high energy and silliness, not negging. Also, she didn't want to go out alone to date because it was too much pressure initially- it had to be with groups of friends. I guess it's a cultural difference. Not sure about Korea though.

    So, at this point, personally I'd start hitting on others in front of her when you can, and then offhandedly mention that you and some friends are headed to get drinks, that she should come. That last text though made me cringe bro- "Just friends?" Ouch...Push/pull, sounds like a lot of pulling.

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    Default Re: Bit of a specific situation (Korean girl)

    Thanks for the reply bro.

    Yeah, that wasn't the last text i sent her (luckily) but I should have said something like "You're too cute to be my friend" instead.

    HB9. I never give 10s so yeah, I'm pretty hung up on this chick.

    Pretty useful advice. No negging, just high energy, and go out with friends? In your specific situation, did she bring japanese friends and you bring your English speaking buddies? Was that weird at all?

    I'm tempted to go for a 1on1 since she hasn't really shot down that idea - you reckon group would be better?

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    Well, if a chick pulls that sh*t on me, my go-to is from Style: "You're just like my little sister, adorable but kind of dorky!" Maybe that would've failed here due to the negging problem, but a good alternative is what I call intentional misinterpretation (I can't remember the PUA lingo). Maybe I would've replied, "The world needs more friendliness, doesn't it? Just today I saw a homeless person on the street, I chatted him for awhile and he had some great stories." Always trying to cram in that dhv as well, hahaha.

    My main concern at this point for this situation is DHV and an imbalance in the push/pull, it's getting dangerously close into the hellish circles of the friend zone. That's why I suggested those things, because it's a serious move in the opposite direction. We've all been there- where there's a HB9 or 10 and we get Onitis. A woman wants a man who is pre-selected by other women, and who is popular- you want her to see that you have places to be, and important things going on besides her. So, give it a shot man. If she makes up a lame excuse, don't sweat it, just take lots of pictures with you, your friends, and WOMEN. Then, next time, be sure to tell her how great a time she missed, and show her the pics.

    Finally, I'm no psychologist, but the best thing for me when I have oneitis is to go out and get numbers and meet other women. It clears my head and gets me into a better space so I don't slip into neediness.

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    Default Re: Bit of a specific situation (Korean girl)

    Haha, yeah I need to widen my view but damn, I haven't seen anyone who qualifies as well as she does.

    Cheers for the tips. I am also considering just outright telling her I have no idea how much I should text her but that I like her (probably during the date - will avoid texting until then). Bad move? It makes my intentions clear and shows some honesty but it might make it seem like I think about it too much?

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    I think it would push her away unfortunately. It's going to feel very counter intuitive, but I would back off a little. Give her a little challenge.

    When you get the date, whether it's group or not, then maybe Kino up to a Kiss Close. I wouldn't use words anymore- she knows you like her. At this point, she needs to believe that you are starting to lose interest, and then her interest will skyrocket.

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    Nice, so just keep Kino and confidence up and she'll get it.

    Hopefully the sudden no texting on my side will be beneficial (though i probably shouldnt have done it at all).

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    Awesome man, yeah keep me posted!
    Oh and one pretty sick trick I learned recently about Kino is that if you are in a public place in a social interaction, you can be as sexual as you want with a girl, so long as no one else can see it. For example, running your leg up hers if there is a table cloth while the waiter is taking your order. Keep a straight face as if nothing is happening. I did this last weekend to a girl (I'd opened but that was about it), we were getting a photo taken and posing with some others, but there wasn't anyone behind us. I ran my fingers up and down her back and kinda scratched/massaged erotically (no one could see, and my face revealed nothing). She leaned into me and threw her leg up on me for the second photo. Just another idea that I found fun.

    Have fun man!

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    Default Re: Bit of a specific situation (Korean girl)

    Awesome. Too bad no table cloths at this place but I'll something haha.

    Going to read up a bit on first dates but want to give me a quickie?

    I'm guessing I shouldn't ask her out as a question, but just assume i.e. "Let's go out on sunday for a coffee. What time should I come get you?" Better than "Are you free on sunday?" (And how to make sure she's free - or if she says she's busy how to recover?)

    And the date itself - short, like 30~45 mins? I've picked a Korean coffee shop. Tables are pretty small so we'll be close to each other.

    Sit opposite? Kino over the table might make her uncomfortable but my leg resting against hers?

    Have an engaging conversation then cut it off at a high point and say I'm busy/have to go? If conversation starts to die "Hey lets talk about something else." as opposed to letting it go cold?

    I'm just throwing in stuff I've read now haha.

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    Awesome man, yeah keep me posted!
    Oh and one pretty sick trick I learned recently about kino is that if you are in a public place in a social interaction, you can be as sexual as you want with a girl, so long as no one else can see it. For example, running your leg up hers if there is a table cloth while the waiter is taking your order. Keep a straight face as if nothing is happening. I did this last weekend to a girl (I'd opened but that was about it), we were getting a photo taken and posing with some others, but there wasn't anyone behind us. I ran my fingers up and down her back and kinda scratched/massaged erotically (no one could see, and my face revealed nothing). She leaned into me and threw her leg up on me for the second photo. Just another idea that I found fun.

    Have fun man!

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    What I like to do is to actually talk to as many people as I can besides her. I know this seems ridiculous, but being the social center simply can't be overrated. Just go in, own the room and have fun with it.

    Definitely don't ask her. If it's one on one, then say something like this: "I've got a little bit of free time on Sunday after I meet with friends/go to the conference/do something important, and I'm going to check out the Korean coffee place. What time should I pick you up?" You might add, "I don't know if they speak English I'm going to need help ordering."

    Then if she somehow musters an excuse; "Yeah, I really shouldn't, so busy! Just have to carve out time for new experiences and fun, you know?" tap her shoulder "I'll just ask my other Korean friend, she works across the street from me, and I know she wanted to go as well."

    Man I am diabolical!

    Yeah, sit opposite until you've had sex.

    Honestly, I'd bank for however long, but see how it goes. If it's not going well, fake a phone call, and tell her "I have to go, my friend needs a hand with something, and I've got to help her out real quick."

    Just some ideas man. You'll nail it, just have fun. Laugh no matter what happens.
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