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    Arrow what pua has taught me

    I believe the single greatest realization I have had is simple: so many of you guys out there make the process of seduction more complicated than it really is. you worrie soo much about what the girl is going to think or what your next move is going to be that you fail to make the split second decisions you need in order to hook the woman and go for more.

    the truth is that I was guilty of this myself as well, I would overthink things and end up using too much game. I would use too many negs and too many compliance tests and I would talk excessively during my interactions with woman, and of course they would see me as some kind of asshole and I would lose the set.

    it took me some time and quite a few cases of buyers remorse to figure out what was going wrong, the answer was simple I was putting in too much effort towards seducing these girls.

    recently had an epiphany, that I am a very attractive man without any of these routines or gambits. it took me quite some time to realize this, a few weeks back when I was on vacation there was a group of waitresses who would not stop hitting on me, these weren't just any chicks these were all HB8's and HB9's I couldn't believe it. so of course I simply asked them if they were attracted to me. they all got shy and blushed it was almost like they were afraid that I would reject them. these were the kind of girls most of you guys put on a pedestal all the time and they were just as shy as the guys who are too afraid to approach them.

    no wonder soo many girls end up with total jerks, because you nice guys are just afraid to be yourself and talk to them.

    you really don't need much game to get girls, all you need is to be brave and make conversation with any and every girl you find attractive. all you really need to attract woman is a little experience and the courage to be who you are and not hide behind routines.

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    Default Re: what pua has taught me

    I concur. The usage of too much game I.E. over use of negs, reliance on routines etc can work against you.

    I personally use aspects of the game and add it to myself. I hate using opinion openers, they seem really forced and false.
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    Default Re: what pua has taught me

    i agree with you banner, the only time I ever use canned material is if I decide to use a joke I heard somewhere. the point of this thread is that too many guys rely way too much on material and not enough on gut instinct and cunning. I see so many guys on this forum who are always asking what they should do, but the opportunity for them has already passed.

    as a wise man once said "good things come to those who wait, but they only get whats left from those who act"

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    Default Re: what pua has taught me

    Cool post, thanks for the reminder. It's very easy to get "bogged" down with information overload.

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    Default Re: what pua has taught me

    Information is a double edged sword for us. Learning new things can be beneficial, but that same knowledge if used incorrectly can severely hurt us. This is especially true for negs, and that is why I have almost never used them.

    However, I wouldn't necessarily say that being calculating in the game is a bad thing. I do it all the time. I approach each in-person situation with a preconceived idea of what I want to say, what I'm going to do, and what I would expect in a normal situation of that kind. During the interaction, if I notice something that would be in my benefit, I move to exploit it as much as I can. After it, I look at what I did right, what I did wrong, and whether the outcome was acceptable or not.

    As for texting interactions, I take my time. With each response, I quickly run through scenarios of where I want to take the interaction. After I get a good idea, I send the message best suited for that. Although I alternate my response times in a rolling interaction between instant and 25 minutes, it hardly takes even a minute for me to figure out the best option.

    The reason I believe I can be so overtly technical and still go about this normally whereas others would become nervous and screw up is because of two things. The first is that I have practiced and studied this stuff so much to the point where confidence, decisiveness, and naturality are all easy for me. The second is that my brain has always operated like that. I'm usually very rapid in my problem solving, and it helps when calculating what to say in a conversation.

    In the end, it's all a matter of what works out best for us. Some strive on not thinking about it at all. Others, like myself, find comfort and benefit in always keeping our hands on the wheel and our heads in the game.
    "There is no better than adversity. Every defeat, every heartbreak, every loss, contains its own seed, its own lesson on how to improve your performance the next time." - Malcolm X

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    Default Re: what pua has taught me

    swagman, this isn't so much for you, or for any of the "experts", you and I are at the point where we can think about what we are doing and still react. but it can be pretty overwhelming for AFC's to try to think about what all is going on and still keep a convo flowing at the same time

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    Default Re: what pua has taught me

    I may be just in the state, where I am getting comfort around women (yes, strong AFC here^^)... but there is something, what PUA taught me.

    It's to not look out for women, who like you for who and how you are, but to get them like you for YOUR BEST YOURSELF. So I started working out and eating cleaner.

    The other thing is, that to most guys (AFC of course), getting a girl is called "being lucky". A friend of mine doesn't even know exactly, how he got his first and current girlfriend.

    Canned material here, in my opinion, provides assurance to the AFC, that PUA works AND is kind of a guideline for your own/for natural material.

    PUA doesn't only get you girls, it makes you a better human for yourself and for everyone else.

    So far the thoughts from Austria

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    Default Re: what pua has taught me

    I knew I had to reply to this post as soon as I saw it.

    I would say with no doubt that what PUA taught me is to be patient!! Especially when trying to get a girl, patience is your best weapon. I think, but then again I might be wrong but I believe is what push/pull is about, patience.
    Nikee --Just did it--

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    Default Re: what pua has taught me

    I think PUA as thought me to be more emphatic and to see how little things can affect a lot of girls humor and actions, it also thought me that its a prize to know how to generate hapiness that most of the people wont have in a lifetime

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    Default Re: what pua has taught me

    This forum just gives me some safety, for that I am thankful.

    But all I've learned was from failing on my attempts.

    OP, I just said what you said on a different thread -> "I'm too good to be rejected for any other reason other than dealing with a girl that doubts herself". Took me a while to realize this as well.
    Veni, vidi, vici.


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