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    Default Re: Should you take advice from women about women?

    Quote Originally Posted by hometownextra View Post
    I bet you could use that to make it into something of a trap. Gears are grinding in my brain. Combine an AFC opening act then dramatically slam into a super confident well articulated cocky funny routine. I see potential in using a tactic like this to accelerate a pretty hard emotional response. Just before getting shut down or disqualified flip a strong 180. Then if she starts buying it push after she qualifies lightly and she may do all the work.

    Dumb idea or am I onto something
    It can work due to the range of emotions, but it can be rather difficult to pull it off. I think being polarizing from the beginning is not only safer, but also will yield better results.

    I theorize that the method you suggest, if done correctly would build a lot more interest than just a regular approach due to the element of mystery that comes with playing on 2 sides of the spectrum. She'll be trying hard to figure you out. Recommended for experienced PUA's only.

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    Default Re: Should you take advice from women about women?

    It would be like landing a double back flip on a monster truck but hmmm.

    High risk high reward.

    I am going to work on this one research and develop this idea if done correctly it could be rather powerful. However such power should only be used for good and only on select targets. It is like developing nuclear ordinance only in pick up.
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    Default Re: Should you take advice from women about women?

    Listen to both sides.. take game seriously.Calibrate

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    Default Re: Should you take advice from women about women?

    Ey hometownextra..I see immense potential too there bro..Indeed this will trigger powerful emotional response..since its only after we have experienced negative circumstances that we can fully appreciate the positive counter-effect of the same circumstance..I definitely like this Idea
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    Default Re: Should you take advice from women about women?

    No women cannot and I repeat CANNOT give good advice. I remember those old AFC Oneitis of every hot chick days and being completely lost asking women colleagues. They did one of many things
    1. Offered bad advice
    2. Sat there saying nothing making me look stupid (her friends)
    3. Made me even more confused

    So generally women have great insight on a number of things and they can tell what they like as far as how guys do things and you can learn from their generalizations but don't ever seek objective advice from them. I have gotten farther with women I wanted than ever through Pick Up, PUA's, Dating Coaches, PU Gurus, than any girl. Bring a girl on to hear her view of pick up she sounds stupid. So no bros before chicks in this case. But I will probably ditch my online buddies tomorrow night if that Tinder chick ever decides to get off her arse and email me back. In that case girls before guys if it means you're gonna score dude. I think it's cuz you need a dominant male peer group advising you not a bunch of subjective females.
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    Default Re: Should you take advice from women about women?

    they dont know what they want. They only talk about the comfort side of things. Whenever they talk, they imagine a guy that they are already attracted to and imagine him doing those things for her (flowers, cuddling, etc). They aren't imagining you give them flowers; they are imagining Brad Pitt giving them flowers. Brad Pitt is allowed to give them flowers. He is so attractive, that him doing supplicative actions will make him more vulnerable.

    They 100% don't know what attracts them and only kind of know what builds comfort for them.

    Women are 10x more emotional than guys, so asking them a question about how they feel and hoping to get a logical list of do's and dont's is foolish hope. They have no idea.

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    Default Re: Should you take advice from women about women?

    Listen to women but not on pickup related conversations

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    Default Re: Should you take advice from women about women?

    Cdharders has an awesome point! I was great at comfort and rapport as an AFC but rarely got things going. And those rare times it did work was because I dropped off the girl's radar (unintentionally) for months. So that may work.

    But the initial attraction phase is completely foreign to women. They have no idea that a guy can influence her feelings in such a small time period like that. The basic thing is that they have to feel like they are making the decision to like a guy. As soon as you start saying that you were the one who made her attracted she will deny it or act incredulous.
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    Default Re: Should you take advice from women about women?

    You can use women to get a lot of insight from a woman's perspective. I find observing women to have been key in learning to control my sensitive side as well as the "I don't date short guys" example above.

    As far as what to actually do to get a girl, don't listen to them. Women are cool for fashion or style tips or to see if something looks good on you (providing they can not worry about hurting your feelings and be honest with you), but def don't use them to become more alpha.
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    Default Re: Should you take advice from women about women?

    Quote Originally Posted by hometownextra View Post
    It would be like landing a double back flip on a monster truck but hmmm.

    High risk high reward.

    I am going to work on this one research and develop this idea if done correctly it could be rather powerful. However such power should only be used for good and only on select targets. It is like developing nuclear ordinance only in pick up.
    "You know what? It's very fast, but I just feel it. I have to tell you: I love you. You're my new best friend. *hug*"

    As for the original topic:

    1 - when you want to know how to ride a horse, you don't ask the horse
    2 - most girls have never dated / picked up a girl

    On a related topic, what about pivots / female wingmen? I've seen them being ridiculously efficient, but if not taught correctly they can suck hard
    Seduction is a martial art. Reading books and talking to experts is important, and helpful. But you won't progress unless you go out there and fight.


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