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    Default Respecting women

    Hi forum. Im going transformation from boy to manhood (Im 22 now). I have always had not so good relationships with my father.

    I read article about "how to be real man" or something like that and it suggested that

    child
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    -rude
    -self centered
    -controlled by emotions
    -values having fun more than work

    man
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    -respects women
    -sacrifices
    -holds responsibility
    -controls emotions
    -does work that are hard and that have low payoff to support his family

    I think these are valid points. How would you interpret these to pua world? I think alpha male SHOULD be somewhat self centered and should not hold women in too big value (dlv) and all that.

    How much and in which sense should women be respected? Any helpful answers are welcomed, I thing you guys are best ones to answer this!!
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    Default Re: Respecting women

    respects women
    this is saying that you treat other human beings like human beings. you don't have to put someone on a pedestal to have respect for them. real men should be friendly and open towards others.

    sacrifices
    this one I sorta disagree with, you don't have to make sacrafices to be a man. however when you have kids/family you make sacrafices to keep them happy. for example: lets say you've been saving up some money to go to vegas and gamble, but your wife and kids want to go to Disneyland for family fun. so you sacrifice you're trip to vegas so you're family can go to Disney land and so you're kids can have an amazing experience.

    holds responsibility
    this is the biggest one that makes the difference between a boy and a man. as a man you have to be willing to take responsibility for your every action (and maybe even take responsibility of others like a wife and kids) that means manning up and accepting the consequences for what you've done. example: you cheat on you're woman, the childish thing to do would be to lie and denny responsibility, the manly thing to do would be to tell her what happened and be willing to take the consequences, even if that means losing her.


    controls emotions
    this is another big one, but it doesn't mean you should hide you're emotions or be deceitful. it means you keep from acting on those emotions. example: you're boss at work is a terrible person who makes fun of you, you get angry at him, but you keep yourself from hitting him so you can keep your job, so you can support your family.

    does work that are hard and that have low payoff to support his family
    you don't necessarily have to do hard work, this one goes back to taking responsibility. if you have a family, you've got to work to be able to provide food, water and shelter for your family.

    I think alpha male SHOULD be somewhat self centered and should not hold women in too big value (dlv) and all that.
    yes you are correct that you should be a little self-centered, but when you have a wife and kids you sometimes do have to make sacrifices and put them before yourself.

    to some it up all of these rules can be summed up in one statement
    "take responsibility for your action before you even commit to doing that action"

    this statement holds true to every last one of those rules except for the very first one and that first one "respect woman" comes to a statement every man should live by,
    "in everything treat others as you would have them treat you"- the golden rule

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    Default Re: Respecting women

    I'd just like to add that there's a difference between "self-interested" and "selfish". A selfish person doesn't care about others; but you can do what's best for you while still being considerate and respectful and treating other people well.

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    Default Re: Respecting women

    Quote Originally Posted by afflixion View Post
    I'd just like to add that there's a difference between "self-interested" and "selfish". A selfish person doesn't care about others; but you can do what's best for you while still being considerate and respectful and treating other people well.
    There's no difference between the two. At the root of all human natures is a selfish desire that cannot be eliminated. Nothing we do is purely out of no gain for us, there is always something to be gained from any action we take. In the end, it indeed comes down to not only focusing on you first and satisfying your own needs, but to also be conscientious of those decisions that you make. As they say, all actions have their consequences.
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    Default Re: Respecting women

    There is absolutely a difference. You can satisfy your own needs and be an arsehole about it, or you can satisfy your own needs while treating other people well.


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