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Thread: V-Day 2014 Gameplans

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    Default V-Day 2014 Gameplans

    Ok guys, I thought I throw this up because Valentine's Day is right around the corner. I’m just wondering how everyone is planning to run their VDay game on a target. Some of you may have that one special girl, some of you who are better multi-taskers may have SEVERAL!

    V-Day is always a bit tricky. You don’t want to come off as a chump/AFC who makes a deal out of it, but at the same time, you kinda want to do something. Although it's traditionally a “special” day of romance/love/sex (and depression for some), you want to come across as treating it like any other day. And all you lurkers reading this, if you are thinking of sending flowers and roses, do yourself a favor - slap yourself on the head. Hard. Close your eyes, breath, and let that silly AFC notion go.

    Ok, I’ll go first (because I technically started running mine as of last night.)

    My situation:
    1. I won’t be around that weekend because I will be going to a big 4-Day nerd convention because I CAN!
    2. The HB has a boyfriend.

    My plan:

    Anticipating our Monday meet might fall through, I decided to run a VDay Boyfriend Destroyer (thanks to Kyl3). For more info on boyfriend destroyers, refer to Xavier’s thread http://www.puaforums.com/how-seduce-...technique.html

    The funny thing...IT FAILED (but you guys can still learn from it!)

    So, I was chatting up my long game HB at our Saturday nite dance waiting for a slower song. I found an opening in our conversation because she brought up the subject of VDay.

    Convo and BF Destroyer bomb went like this:

    ME: So what kind of plans you got this Friday?
    HER: I’ll be busy during the day.
    ME: Oh, well, at night, I bet your boyfriend got something really special planned for you. I bet you are going to get a huge teddy bear. And he is going to wine and dine you with expensive dinner. And surprise you with lots of roses. It’s a night he is going to treat you like you are the most special person in the world.
    (Here, I am using a Strawman fallacy – You hype something up so much to a ridiculous ideal that she can’t match that expectation. So she undercuts it herself.)
    HER: *Shrugs* We’re probably not going to do anything.
    ME: Really? That doesn’t sound like fun. I'm sure he loves you, but you gotta understand after two years...he is so comfortable and secured in the relationship, he doesn’t feel the need to go out of his way to appease you -- *She cuts me off*
    (Here, I use “the lack of passion” element that LTR’s suffer.)
    HER: No, it’s not that. It’s just that he never does anything on Valentine’s Day.

    (Uh oh...not going according to plan. I’m thinking "WTF? Is this guy Jehovah Witness?”)

    ME: What do you mean? Like never?
    HER: *Shrugs non-chalantly like she doesn’t care* We never did celebrate ever since we dated. We never go out for Valentine’s day.

    (DOH! FAIL! What are the chances of this happening?)

    (So by now, in my mind, my first impression was ‘What kind of suck ass boring relationship is she in!? I know the girl is low maintenance but damn she gives it a new meaning. I held my tongue because the important rule is - and no matter how tempting it is - Never bash the boyfriend or she will defend him.)

    (I had to think fast. And this is where wit and experience saved me)

    ME: Well, damn, you know, if you were my girlfriend, you know what I would do to you on Valentine’s Day? (directive/giving her value…)
    *I give her a serious look. She doesn’t answer. Instead smiles, blushes, and looks away.*
    ME: I would wrap you in a bubble wrap.
    (…then takeaway)
    *She chuckles*
    HER: I never heard that one before.
    ME: Then I would pop all the bubbles.

    (So in conclusion – I manage to recover and still add emotional value to the conversation.)

    My plan come Friday on VDay: Send her a “holding pattern text”

    ME: Hey [X], normally I would be wishing you a Happy Valentine’s Day, but since you said you are not doing anything…I’m going to have to say - if you are not smiling and feeling sexy this evening, then you’re not thinking of me
    HER: (And if she is doing something)
    ME: Well I’m having a blast with other nerds at a convention pretending to be superheroes. I bet my Valentine’s Day can beat up your Valentine’s Day.

    Then I’ll go enjoy the con and play Dungeons & Dragons. Aww yea.

    Okay guys, share them gameplans!

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    Default Re: V-Day 2014 Gameplans

    Lmao honestly I wouldn't have recommend using a BF destroyer when it's close to valentine( when all she'll be thinking about is her bf). Also you want to make sure she DOESN'T talk about her bf and you shouldn't have encouraged it.
    You lose some you win some, learn from your mistakes and get better!

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    Default Re: V-Day 2014 Gameplans

    Hahaha that was a sweet recovery.
    I would of said something along the same lines though to try and recover ASAP on her actually being okay with a boring ass relationship.

    There's not much you can do if she really doesn't care...

    Should of said, "I would wrap you in bubble wrap.....(pause) & totally roll you off a cliff. Aren't I romantic?"
    She'd chuckle if she had any sense of humor, & you win. But I liked your line.

    Marvillo I understand your point of view but I disagree. This was a rare case where a girl actually doesn't care whatsoever about V day. If she did, than the boyfriend destroyer would of worked, & there's now way to tell unless he ran it. He didn't lose any value in relation to her by saying it, nor did he give value to the bf.
    He actually gained a little value by making her laugh.
    It would of worked really well if she did care and he wasn't doing anything at all, but oh well.

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    Default Re: V-Day 2014 Gameplans

    Actually I think the BF Destroyer was very well ran. In order to take some cracks at the BF, you actually need the BF to be mentioned, and especially in a way that will allow you to take a good jab without her getting defensive. The fact that he has never done anything special for her on Valentine's day is nearly perfect for you to do as you please. Your quick response was excellent, and the follow-up plan is pretty solid.

    The timing of V-Day can be both and advantage and a disadvantage. If the boyfriend goes over the top with celebrations, you're screwed. If he falls short, he's screwed. By the sounds of it, V-Day may work in your advantage my good sir. Just continue to be smooth and run your game wisely.
    "There is no better than adversity. Every defeat, every heartbreak, every loss, contains its own seed, its own lesson on how to improve your performance the next time." - Malcolm X

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    Default Re: V-Day 2014 Gameplans

    I agree with swagman. overall you need to keep escalation in mind.you may fall in the greyzone if delayed too much.

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    Default Re: V-Day 2014 Gameplans

    With all of my current options I will be disappearing for V-day. I've never gone out on V-day "sarging" nor V-day weekend, so I'm going to try my hand at that. I figure it will make things easier because the women who have boyfriends for the most part should be with their boyfriends, making the prowl a little easier. Also, it's safe to assume that if they're out at a club or bar, they're not there to hang with their friends; not on V-day! They will ALL be looking for Prince Charming

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    Default Re: V-Day 2014 Gameplans

    Lilst, that is actually a really good idea. Great time to go sarging - all the taken girls will be occupied, leaving the singles to roam about on a Friday night.


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