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Thread: Elliot Rodger's is giving PUA some bad names

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    Default Elliot Rodger's is giving PUA some bad names

    Seriously his outburst has broguht attention back to the PUA world and I feel more people are going to catch on about our movement. It's all in the news. Do you think it will be negative for us?

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    Default Re: Elliot Rodger's is giving PUA some bad names

    i think most people will try to shame us regardless of any event. all they think is that we're a bunch of men who just try to get laid. they forget we're people too who at the end of the day really want someone we can be with. it just so happens that we're trying to find the perfect girl by meeting all of the ones that we're attracted to, so we can see if they're a perfect fit in our lives. most of these people who shame us are only looking for validation and often the media puts it out there to control people's Mindset as well as drive traffic to their sites, tv shows so they can continue to make profit.

    i thought this guy who had done something stupid was going to hurt us (as a community) but after doing more research beyond what everyone was saying--i realized that most people weren't looking at the important factors in that elliot kid's life. what i mean is that he had mental issues. these mental issues would have led him down a violent path even if he got laid or if he got a girl to be his girlfriend. he not only had inner demons but he also had some other problems.

    another important thing to note in my opinion is when you read his body language and your analyze the tonality of his voice--hes not confident about his decision to go out and murder people. you can watch the video and also take note about his laughter and how forced and brief it is on top it not matching his facial expression. he doesn't believe any of the things he's about to do, he's just going to do it because its easier for him to react instead of interact. if i remember correctly he mentions how he'll be the real alpha male--but a real alpha male as we all know doesn't have to prove anything to anyone while he looks out for the group. he leads the group out of the situation. i think it's obvious that no matter who you talk to outside of this community they aren't trying to understand anything. they're just reacting and pointing fingers. seriously think about it. we're a community of men who spend a lot of time talking to ourselves trying to improve ourselves. the most obvious thing here to take note about Elliot is that he's a sad AFC at heart. that's the bottom line. he didn't seek any advice or help. he sought out his fears hoping someone would step in to save him. the fact that he was going to do something dangerous, made a video about it and then killed himself says that he wanted someone to stop him and to love him unconditionally. think about the people who cry wolf when they mention they've been thinking about suicide or failed to follow through with suicide. it all comes from the same place calling for attention. it comes from not getting enough affection or attention. in some ways it's a diseased problem in which it needs to be isolated and treated even on a medical and therapeutic level.

    in the PUA community from what i've gathered we stress a lot on body language, what we say and how we say it. it doesn't sound like he really took the time to learn any of the PUA stuff even if it was from Mystery's method or Style's method which are the most popular ideas out there to the 1st world countries.

    in some ways i believe that there's so much PUA shaming now because it's an easy target. it's easier to blame guys who wanna get laid instead of guys who are actively trying to fix their depressing lonely lives. don't forget that there are 2 sources of problems here. 1 is outside of the PUA community in which they're not really looking at our principles in functionality. 2 is that inside of our community in which some of our members look for the short way out in regards to lifestyle, love and money. there's no easy way out.

    what people don't hear about in the popular media outlets is how many guys have gotten married, gotten dates or have turned their life around to be more social to be apart of a community that accepts them because they accept themselves. the media only pushes out bad news because it gets people all flustered in which they think they know better without really doing their research. people who say they've done their research hardly have. i don't know any men or women who disagree with all this PUA stuff who've spent at least 2 weeks solidly researching methods, theories, techniques, on direct / indirect and natural games.
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    Default Re: Elliot Rodger's is giving PUA some bad names

    Maybe.. Who knows what's going on Society's farked up mind?
    Poor guy, he's an AFC with mental issues who just happen to have flipped the switch.

    "Our Movement" - the way you said it makes me want to have a secret handshake or code. haha

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    Default Re: Elliot Rodger's is giving PUA some bad names

    Quote Originally Posted by CapPickup View Post
    "Our Movement" - the way you said it makes me want to have a secret handshake or code. haha
    lol. i think its stupid to call it a movement. i understand why--but it lumps us to think that we're going to revolutionize popular culture based on a monetary system looking to sell ideas that hurt us in our inner growth.
    Every moment counts, get out of your head and enjoy it.

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    Default Re: Elliot Rodger's is giving PUA some bad names

    I quit thinking of it as "pickup" a while ago and instead, considered it "social dynamics".

    It's all about learning to stop being intimidated by women & just learning to separate yourself from the typical schmuck that most girls are familiar with.

    If your focus is to "Pick up" girls, you'll have a harder time.
    If you rely on scripted routines that don't fit your genuine personality, you'll end up being incongruent & keep running into stumbling blocks.

    Yes, essentially is IS "pick up"... but it's really all about learning to be social & having confidence in who you are.



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    Default Re: Elliot Rodger's is giving PUA some bad names

    I don't see the need to why any guy needs to tell a girl that they're a PUA. Fun, flirtatious guys have been on earth for a long time. Unless you go out of your way to tell them very, very few girls will be able to tell that you're a PUA.

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    Default Re: Elliot Rodger's is giving PUA some bad names

    You know Dave, I do a bit of DJ-ing and I can always pick out the PUA's in the crowd and I can't believe that girls can' pick these guys out to. Now these aren't regular PUA's, these guys are on the extreme end of things , but you see them scoping out the dance floor, going up to the hot chicks that just came in, dancing with a girl then moving on to another girl, grinding on girls, playing touchy feely, taking their shirts off, walking through the room and going from one girl to the next to the next ... Now I know that doesnt represent all of us, but I think those type of "players" give the whole PUA thing a bad name.

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    Default Re: Elliot Rodger's is giving PUA some bad names

    Honestly its irrelevant. If mtv couldnt bring this shit into the light. Neither will this. And if you have truly good game there is no such thing as competition and what ever comes of the community wont matter.
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    Default Re: Elliot Rodger's is giving PUA some bad names

    Id like to add that I was in a very dark place in my life after my ex girlfriend dumped me almost a year and a half ago now. Not just because of her, but because of everything going on in my life at the time.

    If it wasn't for these forums & "PUA" life lessons that I have learned from these forums & my own desire to improve my life, I'd be a very different person today. I'd have a lot less friends, I wouldn't nearly be as charming, & I certainly wouldn't be able to succeed with the girls I do today. The girls I thought were "10s" before these forums, I don't even consider anymore.

    I guess what I'm trying to get at, is, this stuff can be life changing for some. The answer they have been looking for. The help even I NEEDED at one point.

    Elliot Rodgers was a violent sociopath. Even if he got laid, he had serious mental issues that would of still caused him to be violent. Getting laid wouldn't of changed anything. I'm no psychiatrist, nor a mental health specialist & there's no telling if medication could of helped him.

    I agree with Rooster 100%. ^

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    Default Re: Elliot Rodger's is giving PUA some bad names

    Quote Originally Posted by drgnsfire12 View Post
    ...I do a bit of DJ-ing and I can always pick out the PUA's in the crowd and I can't believe that girls can' pick these guys out to....

    lol i think theres a big difference between a PUA and what you're really talking about is an AMOG or AFC...
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