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    Default When a prop or peacock statement is questioned?

    Even before learning about the PUA community I had always been a fan of going out wearing stand out accessories, such as scarfs and simple necklaces. But I feel my game could improve by becoming a little more ambitious, or at least I plan to test it.
    I was wondering what good responses anyone might have to when a prop is immediately questioned as opposed to instantly admired in a positive way. What are some good replies to

    "Are you wearing eyelIner?..."

    "Why the black fingernails?"

    "What's with the cowboy hat?"

    "Are you trying to be Neo from the Matrix with the leather coat?"

    "Nice cowboy hat brokeback!"

    Just to name a few that I see as likely sort of questions.

    I don't feel that replying with a simple
    "I like standing out!"

    Would be good enough, in my experience unless they are already in the attraction stage, the response is nothing more then

    "Ah.... Cool."

    Any tips from your past experiences would be greatly appreciated gentleman"
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    Default Re: When a prop or peacock statement is questioned?

    Okay,

    Let me preface by saying I'm starting to PUA in practice, but I've read a lot of methods cover to cover and a bunch of behavioral psych books, and my response is mostly based on those readings.

    So these questions are actually a GOOD thing, even if they come off as them making fun of you. They are either ioi's or Sh1t Tests (which, really is just the opportunity to get another ioi).

    Fact is, if they subconsciously didn't approve of your style, they would feel disinterested in you and leave you alone. An approach reflects interest (even if THEY don't know it yet), so
    when you get hit with a Sh1t Test, which applies in some degree to all of you're examples, it means "Hey! I'm interested, but, wait, are you Alpha or Beta, cause a beta male won't take this well and I don't do no Beta....
    I read an article that says to agree and amplify (and have used this, it works). It's brilliant cause you don't have to think much, it gives the desired effect to pass the test. They will turn their attitudes around if you do.

    In the case of your examples, this might look something like this:

    "Are you wearing eyeliner?"

    -"Yeah, do you need some? I think yours is running" (Bonus with the neg, keep it playful though)

    -Why the black fingernails?
    "They were out of hot pink..." (aaaaannnddd BIG SMILE + Good eye contact)

    Are you trying to be Neo from the matrix with the black leather coat?
    -"Actually, I was trying to be Trinity... Thanks, you ruined it."

    -Nice cowboy hat brokeback...
    ... Okay, I can't actually think of one for this.... but you get the idea.

    Again, I'm new in practice... so I would ask a couple more people. But this tactic has been effective so far and it's a great go to so that you don't have to memorize tons of comebacks and hope you have the right one for the situation....

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    Default Re: When a prop or peacock statement is questioned?

    Quote Originally Posted by ProfessorX View Post
    Okay,

    Let me preface by saying I'm starting to PUA in practice, but I've read a lot of methods cover to cover and a bunch of behavioral psych books, and my response is mostly based on those readings.

    So these questions are actually a GOOD thing, even if they come off as them making fun of you. They are either ioi's or Sh1t Tests (which, really is just the opportunity to get another ioi).

    Fact is, if they subconsciously didn't approve of your style, they would feel disinterested in you and leave you alone. An approach reflects interest (even if THEY don't know it yet), so
    when you get hit with a Sh1t Test, which applies in some degree to all of you're examples, it means "Hey! I'm interested, but, wait, are you Alpha or Beta, cause a beta male won't take this well and I don't do no Beta....
    I read an article that says to agree and amplify (and have used this, it works). It's brilliant cause you don't have to think much, it gives the desired effect to pass the test. They will turn their attitudes around if you do.

    In the case of your examples, this might look something like this:

    "Are you wearing eyeliner?"

    -"Yeah, do you need some? I think yours is running" (Bonus with the neg, keep it playful though)

    -Why the black fingernails?
    "They were out of hot pink..." (aaaaannnddd BIG SMILE + Good eye contact)

    Are you trying to be Neo from the matrix with the black leather coat?
    -"Actually, I was trying to be Trinity... Thanks, you ruined it."

    -Nice cowboy hat brokeback...
    ... Okay, I can't actually think of one for this.... but you get the idea.

    Again, I'm new in practice... so I would ask a couple more people. But this tactic has been effective so far and it's a great go to so that you don't have to memorize tons of comebacks and hope you have the right one for the situation....
    Newbie or not, a very intelligent response, firstly, thankyou.

    My main problem is that I'm an actor by profession and as such, have spent years looking at things in a ''Expect, and be prepared for the worst case scenario'' which really, goes against a lot of PUA teachings, such as assuming she is interested in you and what you have to say.

    And because of this, when going in field I dont feel as confident with what I am wearing or saying unless I have a pre-written response for any negative replies, (Like an actors script when a fellow actor forgets a line) which I know is silly because a lot of The Game is being able to improvise, but I just feel that for the start of my practice I need to have some ideas as to how to respond to the worst case scenario.

    Again, all good answers that are a great help, thankyou!

    Would still love to see other opinions on this.
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    Default Re: When a prop or peacock statement is questioned?

    I agree i think those responses are great!!!

    I think some kind of sarcasm is always good. Im naturally sarcastic but since i live in a different country with different culture it sometimes gets me into big trouble with different humour as i am used to and i come accross insultingly.

    Tbh no matter what you say if you can make her laugh i think its always a great thing. If she laughs it means she enjoys your company.

    A situation that occured recently: Myself and my friend at a bar. A girl approached and asked him an opener about his age. They talked. I bailed. Clearly he was in with this girl. They chatted and then she fecked off and started talking to another dude after they hung out for a bit in the club. He told me after that she probably got bored and lost interest. Now my bud is AFC and i think he played his cards wrong when he had a good hand.

    Just like poker it doesnt matter your hand, its all about how you play it and make the other person believe what you have.

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    Default Re: When a prop or peacock statement is questioned?

    Brokeback comeback is simple. Just act very very gay. Take her by the arm and say "You have to help me find a man" then walk around the venue and game on. Use this to Isolate, dhv, Kino, and trust test all in less than a minute. I wear a pink bracelet just so I can do this routine. Im a c/f guy who loves to play jokes.
    HTFU

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    Default Re: When a prop or peacock statement is questioned?

    just remember to be playful and stay confident. If she says nice cowboy hat brokeback just say something about something she's wearing like... nice shirt...I didn't think dog poo green was a good color until I saw it on you. be kinda insulting but smile and don't be too insulting. play and tease.

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    Default Re: When a prop or peacock statement is questioned?

    Hey
    Those responses are pretty good
    What I'd do about the cowboy hat situation I'd use the fact that you are an actor to your advantage
    I.e. Choose a random semi popular tv show from your area (personally I'm German so I'd say so
    Something like we are filming the next episode for gute zeiten schlechte zeiten, a terrible but well known soap opera, and we came straight from set) then just continue from there

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    Default Re: When a prop or peacock statement is questioned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    Brokeback comeback is simple. Just act very very gay. Take her by the arm and say "You have to help me find a man" then walk around the venue and game on. Use this to Isolate, dhv, Kino, and trust test all in less than a minute. I wear a pink bracelet just so I can do this routine. Im a c/f guy who loves to play jokes.
    Dude, the gay stuff is incredible. My first pickup ever was with the line in The Game, "If I wasn't gay, I'd make you mine." Now if anyone asks about my nail polish, I just say, "what do you think? too flamboyant? I don't want to come across as girly gay. I'm still a man." I think everyone who is serious about PU should use some gay material.
    -pickpocket

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    Default Re: When a prop or peacock statement is questioned?

    This is one thing that I never got. I personally can't pull off the androgynous Mystery look or unusual peacocking for some reason. Rather than Rock Star or Glam look. I prefer a classic dress "Mad Men" business casual look. Finely tailored sport coats and slacks and button downs but in bright, unusual colors like white, purple, pastel blues, etc. I leave the blacks, greys, and Navy's in the bin. I'll often buy white sport coats at Goodwill and dye them and then go to a taylor. Women always go "Where the hell did you get THAT??" and I say "I made it hon.". I've got a sportcoat in every color imaginable in my closet. Depending on my mood I'll pair them up with black or white slacks or dark jeans. Sometimes a turtleneck and necklace, sometimes untucked button down.

    No doubt, when I walk into a room, women's eyebrows raise up and you just hear their minds going "Yum! Real MAN!" and to say I stand out is an understatement. A rainbow of finely tailored fruit flavors.
    Last edited by SiliconMagician; 04-05-2012 at 07:38 AM.

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    Default Re: When a prop or peacock statement is questioned?

    Quote Originally Posted by ProfessorX View Post
    -Nice cowboy hat brokeback...
    "Stop right there, gay guys are not as (throw in a jokingly narcissistic or sarcastic statement about yourself here) as me. Then neg her right back followed by a soft compliment, etc...
    Last edited by Executioner; 04-06-2012 at 06:52 AM.


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