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    Hi,
    my name is Dan and I am a 22 year old virgin. I had a girlfriend once for about a month and she was hardcore catholic. I'm going to lay it out there I was homeschooled(not religious at all) and was kind of socially retarded. I work with a ton of women and most of my friends are women, but thats it; friends.
    I'm in reasonable shape and am not bad looking. (At least I think so) I am a nice guy who has talked himself into "putting it on a pedestal". I am tired of finishing last so I came here for some help. Be as blunt as you need to be. Its time "Mr. Niceguy takes the back seat!

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    Default Re: Frequently friendzoned

    Your biggest mistake is putting pussy on a pedestal. It basically gives girls power over you.

    You need to think of seduction as a game. Girls are all about mind games, and testing guys. You need to turn the game on them.

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    Default Re: Frequently friendzoned

    Quote Originally Posted by pwonager View Post
    Your biggest mistake is putting pussy on a pedestal. It basically gives girls power over you.

    You need to think of seduction as a game. Girls are all about mind games, and testing guys. You need to turn the game on them.
    True. By nature, women are not meant to be in control. So anytime they do seize power, it goes wrong. Especially for the guy. The man seducing the woman is to have control at all times. I think you give the woman control because you don't get that many chances with them and you don't want to screw up, or you thought you were supposed to be the nice guy (correct me if I'm wrong). That's why you have to take the Mindset of an alpha male. This thread and this thread are two good ones for you to read. They're both part of the newbie guide.

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    Default Re: Frequently friendzoned

    Thank you for the response. I appreciate the help, and am going to try utilizing this website and the advice the best I can. It can be hard to step outside preconceived notions of chivalry. Maybe that's just an excuse for why I am where I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor90 View Post
    Thank you for the response. I appreciate the help, and am going to try utilizing this website and the advice the best I can. It can be hard to step outside preconceived notions of chivalry. Maybe that's just an excuse for why I am where I am.
    Most of us had those preconceived notions of chivalry incorporated before we found the community. Nothing to worry about, anyone with a bit of will to become better with women can easily delete those and install an alpha Mindset.

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    Default Re: Frequently friendzoned

    Virgil,
    thank you. Its funny because I tend to be closer to an alpha in school and career but am decidedly not with women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor90 View Post
    Virgil,
    thank you. Its funny because I tend to be closer to an alpha in school and career but am decidedly not with women.
    A lot of people are taught to be all they can be at school and in their careers, but to drop on their knees and surrender when it comes to women. That's simply social programming. The same used to go for me, though it's really turning the other way around now.

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    Cool, it's nice to see some success stories and be able to form some goals. I can visualize what I need to do and can only imagine that people like you will help me get there. Thanks Virgil

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    Default Re: Frequently friendzoned

    This is a great first step you are making. Many men are in the same position as you, but are not willing to go the distance to understanding why they aren't getting the results they want. Or maybe they know about pickup and feel it is just a manipulation and a bag of tricks with clever lines. This is a very short sighted view.

    During this time just try to understand that you will make alot of mistakes so try not to beat yourself up. That's what experience and building character is all about. Alot of us have made the same mistakes or worse that you are going to make. Your journey will be long and difficult, but it will be well worth it. So just have fun. Good luck.

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    Default Re: Frequently friendzoned

    Quote Originally Posted by Virgil View Post
    A lot of people are taught to be all they can be at school and in their careers, but to drop on their knees and surrender when it comes to women. That's simply social programming. The same used to go for me, though it's really turning the other way around now.
    Yeah man, Hollywood is responsible for much of the social programming going around.


    Movie where the dude is hopelessly in love with the babe, and he declares his love for her. He buys her presents, gets on one knee and she accepts him because he's the "nice guy" that she always wanted.


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