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    Default Low Self Esteem

    So I read a review on pandora's box (I've never read it myself) and overall it is said to be a good system. However it's weak points are implementation (focuses more on theory) and taking into account a woman's self esteem.

    This is an area that I noticed hasn't been made a focus overall when it comes to game. (Mostly used against women with high-selfesteem) Now some of you that have experience with this may know that women with low self-esteem tend to chase the "good guys" away and go for physically unappealing guys with no game or abusive men whose emotions are all over the place. You notice the traditional PUA tactics seem to not work very well, if at all when it comes to these women. (Teasing could easily create a value gap and she will feel she will never obtain you or deserve you) And those who have experience with genuinely trying to increase these women's self-esteem seem to not work that well either. It's more of a personal battle for her that can only use guidance and not instruction.

    So my overall question is...what do you guys think is the best approach when dealing with HB8-HB10 with a low self-esteem?

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    Default Re: Low Self Esteem

    You are completely right, the self esteem issue is usually something that they have to deal with on their own. As guys we have a tendency to try to fix things and the internal stuff that is going on with them is often not something that we can fix.

    As to how to approach the higher end girls with low self esteem its all about what the goals for the interaction are. Number Close? Kiss Close? Find a girlfriend? FWB? Just see what happens?

    I agree with you that too much teasing can backfire, but a little Push-Pull usually works pretty well as does showing genuine interest when you are actually in a place you can talk to her. That being said, if it's painfully obvious that she's got esteem issues when you first meet it may not even be worth your time to pursue any further (but again, depends on your goals).

    My best successes with women with low self esteem have come by using an old classic...find something she's likely to be self conscious about and compliment her on it. Just make sure you don't come across like an AFC or end up puppy dogging. Dealing with them long term is rough sometimes, but definitely do able if you see something in one that you really want to pursue.

    Last note then I'm off to bed (currently in Egypt for work and its 6 in the morning) I've never actually studied any guru's guides, so I can answer specific questions, but I can't always point to a particular method since I don't know all of the names until I suggest doing something and someone tells me "oh its called X"

    Sorry if my post is slightly disjointed...super tired, not positive I'm making sense at this point.
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    Default Re: Low Self Esteem

    Lol I get this strange feeling that you're my mirror image. Even to the last paragraph mentioning you're tired while posting.

    My experience with low self-esteem attractive women is that I'm careful about not complimenting their physique. They hear it all the time and they feel it as superficial. Eventually they question if you find them attractive lol so it's a vicious circle of validation. I'm wondering if going back to an old cliche would still work....dealing with the daddy issues and filling that void.

    My personal interest is to casually date them until they get tired of it and find someone else. Or FWB.

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    Default Re: Low Self Esteem

    This is a cool and interesting post.

    As you know I have mixed feelings on negging, which shows my internal complex regarding women's self-esteem. I think there's little information on it because it's not easily taught. A woman's self-esteem is commonly in a state of flux. It comes down to vibing (cold-reading) about what is and isn't a safezone. That varies from woman to woman, and seeing how pandora's box tries to categorize women into genres... Well, I'm sure Vin did a great job. His theory is solid, but if we could simply put girls into different boxes we wouldn't need this site.

    My girlfriend and I (yeah, girlfriend lol) were doing stuff last night. She had on a matching push-up bra and panties that I complimented her on. I liked them. She said thanks. Later on during the night she let slip out that she felt I was too good looking for her. She went off on a tangent about how she just doesn't have the money to buy nice clothes and how she shops at target and some other weird sh*t. I thought she acting all crazy.

    My last exclusive girlfiend had been a manager at Victorias Secret. It bugged her. I didn't think anything of it until later when I added 2+2. I don't care, but I know it gets to her. It's some touchy stuff.
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