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    Unhappy literally just got back from a club after my first attempt

    Ok, so i recently discovered the whole PUA community like alot of guys here after reading 'The Game' by style, i then read 'The Venusian arts handbook' and decided that i wanted to have ago myself at this stuff and end my AFC'ness. Ive never been very good with the ladies, always getting friend zoned and showing far too much interest early on.

    so tonight during a friends birthday celebration i decided whilst the others were busy dancing (as i cant dance)i would have ago at using some openers and using material i modified from that of what i had learned in the game/mystery method. It went better than i expected but i felt i may have found it difficult to properly NEG the target and DHV. my conversational skills also lacked as i ran out of planned material and i may have waffled abit because i was really nervous. though the cube worked pretty well actually, i was surprised to find out how excited the girls were to have a personality test, and some easy bar magic tricks i learned also brought great interest but i couldn't progress from there. The IOI's just weren't there or i just didnt pick them up. Its difficult in loud clubs to talk to anyone, it was pretty crowded also, i found the smoking area much easier to use. The best set i had going on got cut short when my friends returned and wanted to leave as the taxi had arrived just as i was planning to Number Close! my FTC actually became a real time constraint.

    any advice would be awesome!

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    Default Re: literally just got back from a club after my first attempt

    I dont have much experience for club game, but i can tell right away that you are planning way too much for conversation. You can have one or two topics to get started with but after that you need to listen to her to pick up another topic.

    For instance she says "I just got back on vacation from brazil. I went to visit family down there." She just gave you 3 topics, Vacation, Brazil, and family. basically look for the nouns she saying and that is what she wants to talk about. You just have to lead her there.

    For a n-close, (i learned this trick on this site) i found the best way was to simply give her the phone without saying a word. she will just see her name beside a empty number column and most likely she will give you her number.

    Hope this helps!

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    Default Re: literally just got back from a club after my first attempt

    This is why I personally don't like the pickup methods that focus so much on steps, routines, canned openers...you get my point. It's too robotic man, you're picking this girl up, not Mystery. Do it your own damn way. Talk about things that interest you (not all the time though, the focus should be mostly on her). The key is to use these PUA methods as jumping off points, making them your own. You're new to this, just try some direct and indirect openers at first. Figure out which of those you like best, then just see how far you can keep the conversation going. Some of this should come naturally, and you need to hang on to that. Girls can tell when you aren't being real with them.
    Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming WOW...What a Ride!

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    RagePage is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default Re: literally just got back from a club after my first attempt

    thanks for the advice guys, the conversation bit from bluebomber is actually a very good idea, i wish I'd thought of that ages ago.

    i think i'll ease off on the canned material, Id rather have a slightly less fake atmosphere but i just find it hard to flow and show my higher value to the group and target. practice makes perfect though, if anyone has any advice on how to deal with extremely loud and crowded clubs (if there is a way) id greatly appreciate any advice on that.

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    Default Re: literally just got back from a club after my first attempt

    Also, I'm going to give you a small piece of advice. Don't be afraid to use canned material, it works quite well. That being said you need to have some fall back stories. Surely, you have 3 to 5 interesting stories that occured in your life that are interesting or funny. Sometimes, conversation will come easy and you won't need the material. Othertimes, you may have great natural conversation but you will hit a lull, if this happens through in some material to fill the gap.
    I say this because I have a friend that is doesn't use much canned material and he is brilliant, one of the best PUA's I have ever seen when he is on. I'm way more technical but my sarging in more consistent. I don't have to be on neccesarily because my material is solid and consistent.

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    Kino's Club Game (To Loud to Talk)

    Kino's 30 Girls Project: Andrea 7 of 30

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    Default Re: literally just got back from a club after my first attempt

    thanks suave Kino, i appreciate the advise. last night i went out again, and used alot less of the canned material. i spotted a target that was extremely beautiful hence why none of the guys had the courage to approach her so i decided i'd have ago. she was with another girl, so i did the usual opener and gave the target a neg or two, i followed bluebombers advise and it worked extremely well, i didn't have to say much. I felt pretty alpha being the only guy that would approach them, i used a FTC which worked better than i was expecting. Unfortunately i couldn't Isolate the target, she didnt want to leave her friend on her own which made things a little awkward so i continued the conversation and politely excused myself.


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