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    Unhappy I'm only 18 and I look really young?

    Hi guys,
    I'm new to PUA Forums and this is my first post. I've been going thru some of the stuff on here and it looks like there's some really knowledgeable people around!

    Anyways, this is kind of a semi-introduction/semi-desperate-cry-for-help
    So I just turned 18 and am in the Hague (NL) for the summer. I have been told by many people that I look younger than 18 (16/17 some people even think 15!) and I *always* get asked for my ID when trying to get into clubs.
    I have been out only 3 times (always by myself) and my only success was managing to get a drunk chick (8) to stick around with me whilst we hopelessly wandered around trying to find a dance club (did get a picture though!).

    Basically, there's three main problems:
    1. Most people speak dutch as their main language (though they often speak a little english)
    2. I look pretty young
    3. I don't know how to approach anyone in order to gain social proof.

    The clubs that I go to are generally too-loud-to-talk, and I generally end up wandering around, looking as if I have a purpose, and maybe end up randomly dancing for 10 minutes and feeling awkward because I'm dancing alone amidst all these group circles of older-looking people.

    I've read Ryan DRH's club game and it kind of sucked.. all I really learnt was to look like your enjoying it, which I try to do but generally, I'm not really

    Thanks for reading this, any advice?

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    Default Re: I'm only 18 and I look really young?

    grow a beard, and mustache !

    Sorry club game is not my strong suit !

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    Default Re: I'm only 18 and I look really young?

    i know exactly how you feel man, im 18, i look about 16, and ive been to a few loud clubs full of slightly older women. though talking to these girls aged 18-25 i noticed they enjoy picking up on how young i look and at first i felt they were just trying to snub me but when i showed confidence and dhv they stopped asking my age and didnt even care. dont think about how old you are or look compared to them when you approach. if the clubs you go to have outdoor smoking areas try there because its not as loud as the inside dancing area. thats really all the advise i can give being a major newbie also!

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    Default Re: I'm only 18 and I look really young?

    thanks for the replies.. I have a mini-moustache and mini-beard but, well, let's just say i'm lacking in the facial hair dept. should I attempt dancing with chicks even without any social proof? or is it mandatory to bring/ make friends?

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    Default Re: I'm only 18 and I look really young?

    Hey man cool to meet you, I'm 19 and totally get you, I do look very young as well!
    BUT my game had improved so much in the last month to the point where I almost pulled a 29 year old! Just with sheer game and confidence!! Honestly if you show yourself up in the right way it can make such a difference.

    an I would advise going with people rather than by yourself. I love sarging by myself but found that half the times I've pulled I've actually been out with mates just having a laigh and randomly end up pullin! Haha

    Good luck man

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    Default Re: I'm only 18 and I look really young?

    I find that having the hair on the sides of your head as short as possible makes you look a tad older. It might help for you to post a picture in this thread so we can give you tips (you can't yet, so send me a link if you want to).

    Dutch people speak English. It's a very important language for us to learn and the classes start at primary school these days. A lot of them speak Dunglish though, which is English with a horrible Dutch accent so they might be a bit hard to understand.

    social proof is quite important in clubs, yeah. Guioverk signed up to the forums just four days ago and will also go to the Netherlands next month, facing the same difficulties as you do now. Maybe you guys can go sarging together when he arrives.

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    Default Re: I'm only 18 and I look really young?

    I like this, good idea for them both to go sarging together.


    Quote Originally Posted by Virgil View Post

    social proof is quite important in clubs, yeah. Guioverk signed up to the forums just four days ago and will also go to the Netherlands next month, facing the same difficulties as you do now. Maybe you guys can go sarging together when he arrives.
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    Default Re: I'm only 18 and I look really young?

    And one important thing: the 20-22yo you will be really glad you started practicing soon

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    Default Re: I'm only 18 and I look really young?

    Age is not that important, what is important is the way you carry yourself. women can see if you are a scared kid or a man that will lead them!
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    Default Re: I'm only 18 and I look really young?

    Seriously , as I mentioned I'm 19 but last time I went out sarging I brought myself up in such confident way that people were guessing at 26 and that. I never gave it away haha


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