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    Default Hi, need help with girls at the gym

    I'm smirking at the moment just trying to type this down but it's a question I've recently had on my mind.This post will be quite long for an intro but lets get this out the door.

    I don't really have any experience with girls but I'm quite the looker (according to myself, obviously ). It's also been a very long time since I had self confidence in my self like some days on a rare occasion I'll feel it and then I'll invent things in my head and lose it (in fear I might act arrogantly). I'll give you a brief summary of a particular time in my life where I had self confidence but didn't care what people thought.

    In elementary school all the kids just seemed to pick on me (whether it was my name or the fact that I was hyper and talked a lot even during class time(I got in trouble a lot because I talked a lot)) anyways in those days I just didn't give one second to what people thought about me and I just did what ever came to my heart. In my later years like in 5th-6th grade things were getting a bit out of hand, I got into a few fights and the newly appointed principal had a grudge against me(she was a bit of a trouble maker herself) she called the cops on me and I had to pay a fine even though the other kids started the fight. In any case at this point I was scarred from that incident even though in jr. high I didn't change as much and my grades were always good so if other teachers tried to get me in trouble the principal would just let me go without any ramifications. I made enemies with one girl in jr high when we were good friends but I was too chicken to really convey my feelings to her, so one day all of a sudden her attitude about me changed I'm not sure what caused this to happen but she started to make fun of me and in incredibly harsh ways. Like for example in one class I could see her across the room she would point her finger at me and make blow job gestures with her hands and mouth (she continued to taunt me for the next year like this). I was so enraged mentally by this that I think it changed me when I got to high school. When I moved and got into high school, I noticed how alone I was. I didn't have friends or a girlfriend or anyone I could rely on(only child here). I decided to change how I behaved at around 15, I became this passive "nice guy" who lost his drive to go after what he wanted from life. Compared to who I was before back then I didn't have a hard time talking to girls and a lot of girls liked me back in my early school days but I didn't get into girls until jr. high (I was into video games and especially into dbz back then).

    I bring up this part of my life because I got scared of beautiful women and I invented this notion in my head that "hot girls don't like guys like me." I seemed to always associate my facial appearance as cursed because although it's manly and attractive, hot women flee from it because of who and what I am even if they don't know who I am. This feeling can come when a girl looks my way then looks back (this can be at the gym at my college campus and at the mall). The experience of asking girls out has always been "I have a boyfriend" or they mention they have a boyfriend when I casually talk and just get to know them. I also fear that if I talk to one of these gorgeous blondes in spandex at the gym that I'll be intimidated and humiliated by them or I'll get reported. Also another important thing that kills me is that if these hot girls at the gym are doing their thing (stretching, working out, cardio) I'll tell myself in my head that "These girls don't appreciate a guy who will interrupt their workout and I'll be just the next guy these girls have to say no to". Another one is that "These women think you look too young to be asking them out, don't waste your time" I'm almost in my mid 20s and I'm thinking like this. You see how I was in my early days compared to now? I was more of a man before puberty hit and now I'm just not accepting who I am.

    Right now the only thing I got going for myself is 44 days of noPMO and this nice new beard I put on. Let me be clear about one thing, I don't have any intention of becoming a PUA but I want the Mindset of a man who knows he can attract beautiful women. It's not all about beauty but an intellectually stimulating woman with looks to complement.

    I feel this is an age where real men are becoming an endangered species. These days I see a great lack of respect for males in general and I seek to seperate myself from the rest as I'm sure every guy on here would like to accomplish the same.

    Thanks for this privilege to tell my story.

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    Default Re: Hi, need help with girls at the gym

    Quote Originally Posted by Gantz View Post
    I'm smirking at the moment just trying to type this down but it's a question I've recently had on my mind.This post will be quite long for an intro but lets get this out the door.

    I don't really have any experience with girls but I'm quite the looker (according to myself, obviously ). It's also been a very long time since I had self confidence in my self like some days on a rare occasion I'll feel it and then I'll invent things in my head and lose it (in fear I might act arrogantly). I'll give you a brief summary of a particular time in my life where I had self confidence but didn't care what people thought.

    In elementary school all the kids just seemed to pick on me (whether it was my name or the fact that I was hyper and talked a lot even during class time(I got in trouble a lot because I talked a lot)) anyways in those days I just didn't give one second to what people thought about me and I just did what ever came to my heart. In my later years like in 5th-6th grade things were getting a bit out of hand, I got into a few fights and the newly appointed principal had a grudge against me(she was a bit of a trouble maker herself) she called the cops on me and I had to pay a fine even though the other kids started the fight. In any case at this point I was scarred from that incident even though in jr. high I didn't change as much and my grades were always good so if other teachers tried to get me in trouble the principal would just let me go without any ramifications. I made enemies with one girl in jr high when we were good friends but I was too chicken to really convey my feelings to her, so one day all of a sudden her attitude about me changed I'm not sure what caused this to happen but she started to make fun of me and in incredibly harsh ways. Like for example in one class I could see her across the room she would point her finger at me and make blow job gestures with her hands and mouth (she continued to taunt me for the next year like this). I was so enraged mentally by this that I think it changed me when I got to high school. When I moved and got into high school, I noticed how alone I was. I didn't have friends or a girlfriend or anyone I could rely on(only child here). I decided to change how I behaved at around 15, I became this passive "nice guy" who lost his drive to go after what he wanted from life. Compared to who I was before back then I didn't have a hard time talking to girls and a lot of girls liked me back in my early school days but I didn't get into girls until jr. high (I was into video games and especially into dbz back then).

    I bring up this part of my life because I got scared of beautiful women and I invented this notion in my head that "hot girls don't like guys like me." I seemed to always associate my facial appearance as cursed because although it's manly and attractive, hot women flee from it because of who and what I am even if they don't know who I am. This feeling can come when a girl looks my way then looks back (this can be at the gym at my college campus and at the mall). The experience of asking girls out has always been "I have a boyfriend" or they mention they have a boyfriend when I casually talk and just get to know them. I also fear that if I talk to one of these gorgeous blondes in spandex at the gym that I'll be intimidated and humiliated by them or I'll get reported. Also another important thing that kills me is that if these hot girls at the gym are doing their thing (stretching, working out, cardio) I'll tell myself in my head that "These girls don't appreciate a guy who will interrupt their workout and I'll be just the next guy these girls have to say no to". Another one is that "These women think you look too young to be asking them out, don't waste your time" I'm almost in my mid 20s and I'm thinking like this. You see how I was in my early days compared to now? I was more of a man before puberty hit and now I'm just not accepting who I am.

    Right now the only thing I got going for myself is 44 days of noPMO and this nice new beard I put on. Let me be clear about one thing, I don't have any intention of becoming a PUA but I want the Mindset of a man who knows he can attract beautiful women. It's not all about beauty but an intellectually stimulating woman with looks to complement.

    I feel this is an age where real men are becoming an endangered species. These days I see a great lack of respect for males in general and I seek to seperate myself from the rest as I'm sure every guy on here would like to accomplish the same.

    Thanks for this privilege to tell my story.

    Studying PUA tactics will not only help you get in the fur burger, but if it is not your thing it will still teach you lots of confidence and help you adress many of the insecurites. It will in general make you and overall better man. In business, family, relationships, and so forth. Being able to capture peoples imagination and be interesting allows you to put the ball in your court and control many social situations. I am new to the game about 1.5 months but it certainly has helped in more aspects in my life than just getting girls

    Welcome

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    Default Re: Hi, need help with girls at the gym

    sounds like you have some major aa, its the problem most pua's have starting out the only good way to deal with it is to face your fear and learn from every interaction you have, for instance you will learn that girls don't mind being interupted to talk to an interesting,humorous , alpha male (this is what you should make your goal to become) i hate to say it but there is no easey way of accomplishing this, it takes lots of time,effort, and frustration to get better with wemon here is a usefull thread for dealing with it
    http://www.puaforums.com/how-approac...html#post60105
    if you need advice on anything feel free to message me, i am on this site all the time (literally) i wish you luck!
    meteora

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    Default Re: Hi, need help with girls at the gym

    Last year I began getting involved with PUA material and I won't deny it got me a few numbers and had me talking to girls when I thought it was most difficult.

    I think it's my fault for being cynical, it's a bit weird for me to believe that men recently discovered the mentality of a PUA only a few years ago. When anything involves money the ones who can come with up with material can capitalize on such trends. However I say this, I haven't used the material to an extent where I could conclude if this material works or not. Also I can't speak for others who had success multiple times.

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    Default Re: Hi, need help with girls at the gym

    i can tell you it has changed my life, i am still working the bugs out of my game, but i used to have boring convorsations with wemon that never lead to anything, now i have interesting convorsations,get numbers, take girls out on dates (i didn't even kiss a girl till about a year ago), i get kiss's sometimes and even lost my v-card as a result of pua. it realy is the real sh!t!!!! you have to internalize it though, which takes time and effort

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    Default Re: Hi, need help with girls at the gym

    Quote Originally Posted by meteora View Post
    i can tell you it has changed my life, i am still working the bugs out of my game, but i used to have boring convorsations with wemon that never lead to anything, now i have interesting convorsations,get numbers, take girls out on dates (i didn't even kiss a girl till about a year ago), i get kiss's sometimes and even lost my v-card as a result of pua. it realy is the real sh!t!!!! you have to internalize it though, which takes time and effort
    I have a lot of Carlos Xuma, and DeAngelo DVDs, I had been busy dealing a lot of family stuff so I barely touched those.

    Tonight I just came back from the gym and I did one of things that was most hardest in my mind to do. While a hot girl was wearing headphones I got her to pull them out by signaling. I got a little nervous since I hadn't talked to girls in awhile, I accidentally hit the stop button on my treadmill while doing this. I was about to croak because it was so random and like the girl was very shy and nervous. I was like "man I accidentally hit the stop button" she laughed and I tried to pick up my words like "do you work often? are you a night owl? do you have trouble sleeping after you exercise" lulz I said in such a way that I wasn't sure if I was serious about talking to her, she answered nervously back with a smile and just put her headphones back in. It was a good accomplished and I just finished my cardio with a smile because I really never went this far, girls with headphones strike fear in me because they're obviously going to be inconvenienced by taking those ear buds out.

    I'm just a nervous intense looking person who needs practice and needs to lighten up. I've become such a serious person and I don't like the way it affects my life.

    Funny thing is I'm a heavy procrastinator but I'm working on that too


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