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    Default College kid who just can't close

    I think at this point I have made leaps and strides from who I used to be. I learned from the best although I wasn't following his every whim but how could I when I just had 0 confidence. I was a chubby kid up until sophomore year of HS so I had no luck with the girls. But since I began working out and got fit- now muscular, things have changed a bit. I still am a virgin though...I thought I'd have changed that before HS was up...and then the first week of college...and now I am leaving my first month of college. I feel like I just have never been able to escalate things with girls...I'd say I am a pretty interesting guy who is at least pretty good looking and with the help of my friend a bit of a charmer but I am always too much of a pussy to take a leap of faith. I make excuses that it is never the right time to just lean in for the kiss so most of the time I had to get lucky with getting the kiss to happen in the past. A girl would have to nearly throw herself at me.

    So can you guys help me? My friend who gets more than anyone I know just tells me that I am in college so I shouldn't even have to ask her to go to dinner with me or something, just get her up to your room and hit it. And to let them initiate the physicality...(i.e. say I almost think you're cute and then she'll start looking at you in that way and things will go down) but I just don't see that happening.

    And what would you guys do about girls on your floor? I was thinking of telling a girl "Come watch a movie with me" as my friend has suggested too but I don't know how on earth I'd escalate that to kissing and then I'd hope to finally lose the v-card that night too...I think it is easy enough when you are already on a bed to get shit popping.

    tl;dr how do I escalate from talking to kissing?

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    Default Re: College kid who just can't close

    man i had the same problem my freshman year at college. i could get them in my room but i would freeze at the moment and say lets leave. trust me now that i think about it i could of had a hard 10 and an 8 for hooking up anytime i wanted but i pussied out. do not do this you will regret it you have to take a leap of faith and just try
    im on a different level

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    I think you should contact Cody about this. He is extremely good when it comes to college game so his insight would be very beneficial to you.
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    Default Re: College kid who just can't close

    College is the best time to fark. Srsly, it's when the greatest number of girls are simultaneously single and sexually active (not single after college, not sexually active before).

    The "come watch a movie" thing works. You still have to run solid game before you invite her over to build enough attraction to make her want to come, and enough comfort to allow her to allow herself to come. Once you get her to your place (read this http://www.puaforums.com/how-seduce-...led-d-h-v.html) run your game and escalate Kino.
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    Default Re: College kid who just can't close

    Thanks for the responses guys...and yeah. My friend too always says to just do it. The worst that can happen is a no and awkwardness but if all you want is to hit...then of course there is no reason not to. And if you wait too long you are either going to get friend zoned or drift away. But of course you need balls to escalate things. I guess I will just try to have an excuse to get "physical" and try to lead that into something real.

    And hopefully this Cody comes here because I have no clue how to contact him unless his username is legitimately just "Cody" haha. Guess I will try to find more college related threads too. Thanks for the help.

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    Default Re: College kid who just can't close

    I'm in college too; same issues and one point or another. I assume you've been hitting up these posts and maybe read the Game or some other pieces of work. Just remember some basics - the neg, dhv, be confident, and the like. Even cat/String Theory can work making her want to instigate more intimacy.
    Go for it,
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    Default Re: College kid who just can't close

    Actually I haven't read anything. I just have gotten most of my info from my friend and I have kind of picked up what to do over the past year.

    And I get it all basically...it's about being of great value, teasing her, being sexual, being confident. Perhaps I don't give off a great sense of value is one thing I can think of. I kind of try to avoid letting girls get to know me.

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    Default Re: College kid who just can't close

    Here I am!

    Yeah, I'm just Cody. A short time after I joined, Virgil inspired me to ask Bill if he would change my screen name to my real first name, and, being the great guy that he is, he did.

    Thanks, BatMan. When I get referred it makes me feel good inside.

    Most of the time I had to get lucky with getting the kiss to happen in the past. A girl would have to nearly throw herself at me.

    Here's a game for you that I used to play. Sit down next to a girl--any girl, it's even more fun with girls you don't know--and triangular gaze then go for the kiss. For me it was literally 50/50. Half the girls just went with it, while the other half were like, "ER MAH GERD WHERT DER HERL?!?!?" For the ones that go along, stop halfway and give them sh*t/make a scene:

    "What are you trying to pull here?"

    "Stop it, I have a girlfriend!"

    Kind of like Red Baron's Disqualifiers.


    If she freaks out, remain calm:

    "What? I don't see what you're freaking out about?"

    "What's your problem?"

    "Woah, Girl. You need to relax." (personal favorite)


    And to let them initiate the physicality.

    Yeah...no. That's not going to fly. Sometimes I think, "Hey, she's cute. I'll just wait here and she'll come hit on me." And then she doesn't, because that's not how the world works.


    "Come watch a movie with me"

    Where you're at, this is always going to be a good line. It goes beyond girls on your floor too. If you send that text after 10:00 p.m., she knows what's up and she'll still come over willingly. Not only that, but she expects it to happen.


    How do I escalate from talking to kissing?

    These are the resources that you are going to want to learn.

    -The Triangular Gaze
    -Mystery's Kiss Close Method
    -Virgil Shares Vin DiCarlo's Full Kino System (Sexual Physical Escalation Ladder)


    Now for some notes:

    Like Autismus said, Girls in college are DTF. Don't assume they want an exclusive monogamous relationship because many of them don't. They happily become booty calls. On my friend Abbie's birthday, we went frantic because she didn't have someone to have birthday sex with. I mean, I offered to be polite but we both knew that wasn't going to happen (she's only a platonic friend, still cute though) and Bandit was off doing sh*t in Tennessee or whever the f*ck he's from so that wasn't an option. Don't worry, crisis was averted last minute but it was close let me tell ya.

    Anyway

    Some final words from the wise AFC Adam that apply heavily to college game:

    Take your time. Don't rush her. Give any girl enough time and she will eventually do whatever you want. Bandit and I talked about how comfort is huge when it comes to college girls and a lot of them (rightfully so) have trust issues. She'll come around, and when she does she want to come back around. and again. and again. and again.




    Oh, I almost forgot. I promised Bill that I wouldn't overpromote my blog so I'm only going to post this once. Here is My Take On College Game.
    Wondering where I am now? Check out my latest project:


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    On my friend Abbie's birthday, we went frantic because she didn't have someone to have birthday sex with. I mean, I offered to be polite but we both knew that wasn't going to happen (she's only a platonic friend, still cute though) and Bandit was off doing sh*t in Tennessee or whever the f*ck he's from so that wasn't an option. Don't worry, crisis was averted last minute but it was close let me tell ya.
    Hahahaha Cody, you ass ;-). That cracked me up.

    Anyway Arthur (props on using what I have to assume is your real name, although once we get you started you might want to get it changed. Nobody wants advice from someone who "needs help"), I think you're probably fine on showing value. Hell, it's good to remain a little mysterious. All you really need to focus on is escalating. That's one of the funnest parts to work on. Escalating is probably my favorite part of the pickup process, it's like the drumroll before the big reveal (sexual innuendo implied). Cody already posted some great resources on Kino Escalation, but it's not going to work if it doesn't feel natural. So I'm going to add a little addendum to that information.

    Ok, here it is...you ready for this...I sense that you're not ready...Seriously dude, hurry up this is taking forever...ok, now you're ready? good.

    Kino...everyone.

    Some people are just naturally touchy. You want to become one of those guys. Kino doesn't have to be sexual, just the physical act of touching someone adds a deeper meaning to a social interaction, and it's a great way to build relationships. So start touching your friends, your professors, strangers, and most importantly, girls. Just make it part of your daily habit. Eventually, it'll feel natural. Then you can move on to the sexual stuff.
    Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “WOW...What a Ride!”

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    Default Re: College kid who just can't close

    Thank you guys, I love how in depth some of the content has been. I feel like people are much too general with PUA info usually.

    I'll be sure to use it as I can. It is a lot of info though...just have to make this stuff become a habit- and make it my own as well.

    I would definitely say the whole physicality of things has been a problem for me. I can be flirty with a girl for sure but not through touch in general. And the ebook wasn't really all that good about it imo...I don't see how Kino level 1 inadvertent is the simple stuff that anyone can easily input in a conversation whilst the overt is like arm in arm or hand holding...like that's a gigantic step up from high fiving etc. and I don't see how one can make that jump.

    And I will be sure to change my name once I get to the point where I am at service to the folks :thumbup: (hopefully works here haha)

    Thanks even if you don't read all this tl;dr crap coming up haha.

    So here are some things that have happened at college so far. Just some things I have found odd and I think I still have clearance to proceed but I probably just need to get my comfort level up with them...

    A girl I have been talking to since the first day has been on my radar but she is kind of emotionless, she is fun, but she just doesn't laugh as much as other girls and is pretty damn pessimistic I'd say. Sometimes she really makes me think she is interested in me and other times...not...it's hard to tell with her of course.

    Some examples: First night at college, no one really knows each other, she decides to give me all this chic-fil-a we got for free over anyone we were with, proceeds to walk back to the dorm with me in front of the group just the two of us, doesn't really show any signs of interest though through conversation or emotions...
    One night I wanted to go across the street for some stuff from a Walgreens type of place and she left some dude who came into her room to come with me and didn't even get anything...
    But then this saturday night I said come watch Boardwalk Empire with me (she said she likes it a lot) and she said no and continued to read a textbook...we had just gone out before to go to a party but could not find one and she decided to go back instead of keep looking and I thought I would jump on that but obviously that did not work out...I guess it might just have been because she really wanted to get that done but I found it odd considering it was a Saturday night..maybe she had too much to do on a Sunday. And maybe it's because I was drunk and she doesn't drink. But I act fine drunk...
    Also shes said a couple kind of sexual things like...hard story to tell but we were joking about kidnapping...and she said "why doesn't anyone kidnap me, i'm sexy" and she was telling me about boots she brought back after going home for the weekend and mentioned they are kind of slutty and said "it's good to feel slutty sometimes" and probably some more solid examples but I cannot think of any haha.

    This other girl also walked back to the dorm the other night with me and I got her number but she didn't text back after a couple responses and I found that especially odd because after I texted her just saying it was me she asked if I had gotten to my saturday morning lab alright, I did not even truly initialize the conversation. She also laughs at mostly any joke no matter how bad/good.

    Both of these girls are on my floor. I feel like these girls might be prude-ish, hard to get considering I am in honors dorms so they are at least pretty smart and probably have always put work high up on their priorities and not interested in being a slut. Perhaps I need to reach an extremely high level of comfort with them in order to hit considering they wouldn't want people on the floor to think less of them.

    And then finally, the most complicated of situations, I cannot tell if I am in the deepest of friend zone-mania or she is interested in me.

    This girl went to HS with me and last year we kind of had something but I f^*^ed up and let attraction turn into friend zone-ness because I waited wayyyy too long. One party she was grinding on me and we were just in a room hugging each other but I didn't hook up with her because I was an absolute chump. She even texted me the next morning asking how I was doing...but I proceeded to do nothing and waited 2 months and when I finally "asked" her on a "date" she said no. Now fast forward to now (at the same college)...she changed in front of me...is always giving friendly punches...one night was texting me saying she missed me (drunk, even though I literally saw her that night) and I was joking around texting her one day saying her nickname was Kinky (name) and she said "haha I don't remember that but I like it " She also grinded on me but of course at a college party that's really nothing. She was also always holds on me while wading through the crowds at parties.


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