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  1. #11
    HB10assassin is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default Re: Friendzone all in your head? We will see.

    Wow so I should get a farking metal. If you remember 2 days ago she was asking to do stuff. Today she said not the date I offered but maybe something else. I called her planning to act like I was asking her out for the first time with something I wanted to surprise her with on Saturday ignoring fact she had already rejected my first idea. This is ballsy because she hates surprises and loves to be in control of the situation. Well after some phone tag I got her on the phone and she was in full reject mode. Saying she was busy, I was being irritating, something with our personalities just doesn't mesh. I told her directly that is bs and she was being weird. She said "sorry it is not you". I also challenged her saying she always wants to change and control things because she doesn't want to let people get close. She protested then said maybe. But I knew she was pushing me away because she felt like I rejected her. I didn't let it faze me. I told her I was curious if she trusted me enough to let me surprise her Saturday. I knew she wasn't going to let herself commit to anything after saying that stuff so I said I would let her go and call her back and talk about it later.

    Three hours later I called she was still in reject mode. Saying she was watching something and asking what did I want (usually she is chatty calling me). I played it farking cool didnt respond to any of her taunts. Chatted for like minute then coolly said "ok we are doing this thing Saturday and we are going out Friday". She was like "you are taking my whole weekend". I said "I know I might be taking time away from other guys. But if you haven't guessed I don't give a fark about other guys". She said "ballsy" and "you know I dont go out with anyone else." Pretty damn good. The difference this time was I knew when to back off for a bit(girls moods change constantly) and I wasn't pushy or eager or even energetic trying to convince her. It was slow, calm, unfazed, no nervous laughter after she made comments. Now I just got to grow some balls and make a move. I am such a farking wussy when it comes to making a move...

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    Default Re: Friendzone all in your head? We will see.

    friendzone is a bs term for people who dont want to loose a friend or look bad in thier social circle. You deffinately dont want to screw up a mutual relationship with a feminine friend, or screw your reputation in your social circle so you should deffinately feel a little more for thier feelings, but usually if you have a single girlfriend, she's probably looking for the same thing as you. the difference between her and a random bar target is that you and her already have a comfort zone created. all i'm saying is, respect her as a friend, deffinately, but dont let the fear of the friendszone make you crash. use it to your advantage. you never know, maybe she becomes your next relationship. this is ofcourse comming from a guy who is still friends with most of his exes.

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  3. #13
    HB10assassin is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default Re: Friendzone all in your head? We will see.

    So she came over and watched something at my place. But just to get her there required a bunch of Push Pull. She was really negative critical all day. When she came over she was better. But not great still obviously hurt, making comments about me not wanting to hangout during the week. I knew the mood was all off to kiss her but I had to give it a shot. I went for it when she was standing near me we werent having a romantic or sensual conversation. I just cold tried and kiss her. I grabbed her tried to pull her face towards me and she turned away, I kept going after her and she laughed I picked her up and twirled her around. She laughed and said "are you trying to take advantage of me when I am not looking". I walked of and said I am just getting a drink what are you talking about. The second half of the night wasn't any different we were just cuddling on the couch like first half, I kept rubbing and touching her butt, she did move my hand when I went for closer to pussy. At the end she was putting on her coat and I grabbed her from behind tried to turn her around mid conversation. She said you are not even listening to me.

    She brought the thing we are doing tomorrow in a way that made it clear she still wants to do it. It is more fun romantic thing but other people will be there. I am a little discouraged. But to be honest I think her kissing me would be a big farking deal. Not because kissing is a big deal for either of us but because we were already super close once. It wouldn't just be a kiss it would mean we are for sure banging and having a relationship. I want to focus on having fun tomorrow building some attraction. I am not sure though if I should try and make us being physical is not a big deal to take of the pressure. Like saying we should have some no strings attached fun. Or if I should just be direct about wanting her. Any thoughts?

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    Default Re: Friendzone all in your head? We will see.

    I am just a fucking idiot. Sooo discouraged. Hung out with her last night and today but both times I let her change the plans like a trillion times and show up late etc. She makes a big deal about wanting a guy that can be accommodating of her quirks and desire to be flexible. So I was trying to prove myself to her like an idiot. I wasn't always AFC but I was pretty fucking close. So many times I should have said fine lets just call it off. But instead I was so intent on getting her over so I could make a move I caved and was "flexible" which she says is what she wants but obviously doesn't up her attraction. I was more forward about my intentions and more physical with her today even pulling her in from behind and kissing her neck and she didn't pull away. It was right after this SHE OFFERED to come over later in the night. But when I texted her she said she was too tired. Well I saw her car about 1am 3 hours later driving back to her house probably from getting banged by some alpha dude. Even though she just told me she is not seeing anyone else. UGH so stupid.

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    Default Re: Friendzone all in your head? We will see.

    Feel like I left things on such a downer note. Worse than it really was. So the next morning she indicated she wanted to come over again. Come to find out she went over to her exs who she is still good friends with but isn't attracted to at all. Still not great but whatever. She said she is not dating or sleeping with anyone. Funny weekend. I got her to hang out with me fri, sat, and sun by being non-pushy but direct and confident. But once she got over I made some mistakes. I was pretty alpha not being affected by her sh1t tests. But I let her cross some boundaries that I should have put her in her place in a polite way. Like when she didnt want to do something I had put some effort into planning I should have called her out on not being appreciative of the effort I put in.

    So basically what I learned is you can chase and get her over. But if she is not interested enough it is not worth the effort. Because if you fail to close you start to lose value and your effort makes her know she has you wrapped around her finger. It is better to wait for her to come to you. It is hard because she seems a lot less attached to me. It may not work this time. I am starting to think that being friendly but making zero effort to seek or give her validation. I did it before and she was eating out of my hand I just wimped out. It is only way. Maybe in a couple week i will get back on here with some good news. Like I said I am stubborn...

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    Default Re: Friendzone all in your head? We will see.

    I just joined the forum but I have this girl who has definitely friendzoned me. She just broke up with her boyfriend and I thought I was being respectfuly by not making any moves while they were going out. Any advice? I thought about just making a move as soon as possible but I'm really not sure if it'll work. So do I really have to use all those complicated methods?


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