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    Default The start of my journey by OnlyBlue

    Hey fellow PUA's,

    I'm not sure I can call myself a PUA but I suppose thatís the goal and the whole point of starting this journey.

    Firstly I love women and have always dated really attractive girls, ones that I consider out of my league when I first see them. I don't understand how I got them!! However here is the problem, I rarely hold down a relationship and between relationships I have huge gaps of no action or interactions.

    Basically I want to be able to find that one relationship and to make it a LTR.

    I wonder if I play the game with girls and then get them but change into "nice guy" mode and try to hold on too tight because I know I don't find relationships or even dates easily?

    As the PUA world is so varied and large with many systems on offer all with a price I'd appreciate some advice on where to start?

    I look forward to chatting and hopefully finding what I seek.

    Cheers,

    OnlyBlue

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    Default Re: The start of my journey

    Quote Originally Posted by OnlyBlue View Post

    I wonder if I play the game with girls and then get them but change into "nice guy" mode and try to hold on too tight because I know I don't find relationships or even dates easily?

    As the PUA world is so varied and large with many systems on offer all with a price I'd appreciate some advice on where to start?
    As far as playing the game goes then switching to "nice guy" mode, it isn't necessarily like that.

    At first you'll probably use a lot of canned material and "fake it til you make it" techniques, but once you start to internalize the game it will come more naturally.

    Take negging for example (commenting on some flaw the girl has to let her know that you know she's not perfect) and disqualifiers (telling a girl she's not your type). At first these are just gonna be tools you use to create attraction, but later, once you get used to being a "high value male" you neg and disqualify because this girl might actually not live up to your standards, because you know there's a million more you could get so easily.

    Also there is a difference between being a "nice guy" and being a gentleman. Typically a "nice guy" is kind because he seeks the approval of others, whereas a gentleman is kind because he holds himself (and others) to a higher standard. A "nice guy" is beta and supplicating, while a gentleman is alpha and sure. Kinda an abstract difference, but it helps to know that you don't necessasarily have to flip a switch so to speak when going from pickup to LTR.

    Also here's a booklist of PU doctrines and other self-improvment whatnot.
    http://www.puaforums.com/recommended...-list-you.html

    Personally I'd recommend starting with "Mystery Method: How to get beautiful Women into Bed." As far as the pickup community goes a lot of the specifics in the Method are out-dated, but it gives you a good intro into the overall structure of PickUp from Attraction>Comfort>S eduction. And that structure (or slightly tweaked variations) is consistent throughout NightGame, DayGame, CollegeGame, Direct or Indirect.
    DTF HB's omw 2 LTR

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    Default Re: The start of my journey

    Thanks for your guidance, I've ordered a couple of books from your list already and will need to work through them.

    I think you are right about the difference between a nice guy and a gentleman. I would still put myself in the category of nice guy ie Beta rather than Alpha and I think it is because I don't truly believe I can find someone else.

    I'd also say that I'm not looking to be a player or to be perceived as a player. I've never cheated on a partner and have no intention of doing it in the future.

    Perhaps having the ability to find new relationships more easily will allow me to be less "needy" in a relationship so therefore I'll stop be "nice" and just be a gentleman?

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    Default Re: The start of my journey

    david x is no gentleman he does have some good points about not being afraid to freely express yourself. enjoy!

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    Default Re: The start of my journey by OnlyBlue

    the link got deleted but if you google "david x pdf" you should be able to find it


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