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Thread: Ethics in PUA

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    Default Ethics in PUA

    I'm relatively new to PUA and I really like the philosophy of being empowered as a man. I've seen to many of my buddies who are really great guys settle for less than stellar women because that's what was available to them.

    I have some good things going for me in terms of what women want and have the potential to become very successful with women, but I think that the thing that could hold me back are the ethical questions I have about PUA. From what I can see the PUA community has a lot to offer men in terms of empowerment, but I feel like when I apply some of the methods in the field that I'm boiling away the social interaction to some base level and it tends to make me feel very... Machiavellian.

    I'm ordinarily a very analytical and straightforward person; I care deeply about my honor, integrity, and ethics, but when I'm in the field and really feel connection with a woman I feel like I take on a mischievous persona (hence the name). Since I'm fundamentally an analytical person I don't easily get caught up the emotion of a situation and I don't really have a lot of emotional invested in the outcome of any specific interaction. When I'm in mischief mode I feel like I'm pulling her strings as I playfully tease and neg her, I'm watching for signs of insecurity, IOIs, and indications that things could could escalate and when it does escalate I feel like I have a moral dilemma. I've studied people and psychology for years as a hobby and when I become intertwined with the social dynamics I feel like I'm Captain Kirk violating the prime directive.

    Can one still have honor, integrity, and be ethical while being a PUA? Has anyone else dealt with similar thoughts/feelings in becoming a PUA?

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    Default Re: Ethics in PUA

    Yes I have had the same dilemma and I came to conclusion that yes it is ethical!

    If you are having second thoughts about ethics get this:

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    Women manipulate men naturally and they are extremly good at it!
    So now you have the power not to be manipulated!

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    Don't be abusive. Treat them with mutual respect. Be honest. Don't lie! If they do not like it then it is their choice! You are living in your own reality.

    3.
    Women like to be attracted to a man. Why shouldn't you be the one? Is it causing them any harm if they are attracted to you!

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    Default Re: Ethics in PUA

    Oh absolutely. In fact those are the things that dhv.

    The most important thing is to make sure that you have things that you value that are more important than gaming. It keeps you grounded and it gives you perspective.

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    Default Re: Ethics in PUA

    Quote Originally Posted by Mischievous View Post
    Can one still have honor, integrity, and be ethical while being a PUA? Has anyone else dealt with similar thoughts/feelings in becoming a PUA?
    Being a PUA doesn't mean sacrificing those things. Its about learning how to handle women and bettering yourself. That doesn't mean that all material is honorable or ethical but you don't have to use that. If you want to sleep around there's material for that... however if you're just trying to have better more enjoyable dates there's material for that as well. Just because someone has tested and proven that certain material works doesn't mean it fits your needs. The most important thing is not to sacrifice who you are because of the advice from others, unless you know it will help you better yourself.
    In life you get what you put into it.

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    Default Re: Ethics in PUA

    1. women manipulate because of their emotional wiring, they react on subconscious instincts.
    2. Since i got a hand on PUA material i never really got in love with another girl, i see so many options, but i can't seem to end an LTR without hurting her (idealistic HB7)

    I lost all emotional character in relationships. I read love letters or write them with logic, not naturally


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