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Thread: I end up being manipulated and realize too late

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    Default I end up being manipulated and realize too late

    So, I'm new to the forum.

    The reason I've signed up is because I'm hopeless with women. I'm the nice guy that ends up being manipulated and when I go to make a move I end up in the friend zone. I'm good at this, at least I'm consistent.

    I recently met a girl I liked. Asked her out, we got on great. There was/is a connection. I know she likes me but she is either hiding something or refuses to acknowledge it.

    It started a few months ago, and we got to a point where we were seeing each other every day, I was helping her with some things and she didn't have anyone else that would give her time.

    Anyway, we had a few days where she opened up to me and I could see she was not used to doing that. She is quite closed off emotionally.

    I had read through the forums a bit and found some success with bringing her out of herself, I could see her gaining confidence in herself every time we met, and we got comfortable with each other. We had a night where we discussed our 'friendship' and we kissed.

    After that she was a bit distant but we still met each day.
    Then I told her my feelings. Big mistake.

    I realize that that was the point I got friend zoned. She didn't want to acknowledge my feelings and it suited her to be 'pals' as long as we didn't discuss 'us', although she had brought 'us' up a couple of times. Now shes distancing herself.

    I have found myself in this situation many times before and I know that me talking about feelings really stinks of desperation. Hindsight, huh?

    I realize I have no game, and that I'm a total wuss.

    I'm not sure if I can fix this, she is awesome, but any advice would be appreciated.

    Zorg

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    Default Re: I end up being manipulated and realize too late

    dear Zorg - please please read

    "No More Mr. Nice Guy"

    this book will seriously open ur eyes as to what u r suffering from. the first chapter alone will make u think "omg - this is me"

    and this is not just u - that suffers from this, it's many many men including me - and i highly recommend u take a look at realizing ur problem and make a serious effort to fix it

    if u continue this way without fixing urself, women will constantly use u or they will tire of u and leave u.

    GL, man.

    PS. this book is like $6 for kindle i think
    PPS. i am not in no way affiliated with this book.

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    Default Re: I end up being manipulated and realize too late

    Thanks for the reply. I will take a look at it. It just seems like a vicious circle for me and I don't realise it's happened until it's too late.

    But I'm here to learn and any advice is appreciated, Thanks!

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    Default Re: I end up being manipulated and realize too late

    So, I'm new to the forum.
    a solid introduction right there

    Then I told her my feelings. Big mistake.

    definitely

    I realize I have no game, and that I'm a total wuss.
    good to know

    read mystery method for game blueprint, search for being alpha / frame control and inner game stuff around the forum (y)

    despite your "intro," welcome (y)

    by the way, i was talking to a friend earlier tonight and she was like 'yea i've got this guy wrapped around my finger' it's true, and she didn't seem to mind :P they'll do it if you let them :P

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    Default Re: I end up being manipulated and realize too late

    The Newbie Guide
    Check this out also check out some Real Social Dynamics they push for natural game as opposed to canned material its just better in my opinion.
    Take her off that farking pedestal!

    “The truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it.”
    ― Flannery O'Connor

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    Default Re: I end up being manipulated and realize too late

    Quote Originally Posted by hyp View Post
    despite your "intro," welcome (y)
    I did post an introduction in the new members thread, I didn't think I'd have to post another one to start a new thread.

    Thanks for the welcome and highlighting my points anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by pua_wannabe View Post

    Check this out also check out some Real Social Dynamics they push for natural game as opposed to canned material its just better in my opinion.
    I can't repost your link but there is some great reading, ty. Just trying to get my head around the enormity of this forum and the info involved.
    It seems that just when I get to one thread I find links to new info on every page, it really can be quite mind boggling.

    It's understandable how people can find it quite addictive/consuming.

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    Default Re: I end up being manipulated and realize too late

    You will find it in the new member introductions section, its called the newbie guide by Virgil

    I wish you luck!
    Take her off that farking pedestal!

    “The truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it.”
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    Default Re: I end up being manipulated and realize too late

    Quote Originally Posted by YOKiTran View Post
    dear Zorg - please please read

    "No More Mr. Nice Guy"

    this book will seriously open ur eyes as to what u r suffering from. the first chapter alone will make u think "omg - this is me"

    and this is not just u - that suffers from this, it's many many men including me - and i highly recommend u take a look at realizing ur problem and make a serious effort to fix it

    if u continue this way without fixing urself, women will constantly use u or they will tire of u and leave u.

    GL, man.

    PS. this book is like $6 for kindle i think
    PPS. i am not in no way affiliated with this book.
    Big thank you for recommending this book. It was a real eye opener and has helped a lot.

    You wouldn't believe the change I have experienced since reading it. Sounds simple, but the book helps.

    I've also spent a lot of time reading the forum and posts from people like The Red Baron, The Elitist and Tyrone1991 have been outstanding.

    I have made progress with the girl I mentioned by putting some of the posters techniques into practice. Sometimes I'm conscious about it and it feels rehearsed and wooden but other times the effects have been better than expected. It was the reason I came to the forum in the first place. It's been a few weeks but a lot has happened/changed.

    I would like to give an update on the situation. I do tend to go into detail so it could be a long post. Hope it won't be /tldr for people.

    I'd also like to know is it worth starting a new thread for it or should I just keep this thread going?

    Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.


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