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    Default Without Reinventing the Wheel

    Hi. You can call me ShortStuff. I'm new here.

    Here's the skinny: I've been an AFC virgin nerd practically since I hit puberty, I've had enough, and I want to take this new year to grow a pair of steel balls and get laid with the women I want.

    I've been an introvert for a good chunk of my life, owing to the fact that my interactions with strangers tend many times to feel unnatural, awkward, or boring, with all of these becoming worse the more interested I am in the stranger - anxiety about getting the outcome I want.

    It's often hard enough for me to make friends, much less convince girls I'm worth spending a night or many with. You can probably imagine I didn't have much incentive to improve when my reward for trying was typically seeing another guy's face plastered to that of the girl I liked.

    So I've decided that as a starting point in conquering my phobias and learning how to seduce women, I'll make cold approaches when I go out at least every weekend, meeting and getting to know total strangers.

    This where I need you guys. Setting about any task without the proper knowledge and tools is a good way to waste a healthy ego, not to mention a lot of time and money. I need the basics of game, yes, but I would also like to know where to get started given that I do not want to:

    - Be knowingly harmful or manipulative to myself or others
    - Use "sneaky" techniques or "tricks" to get laid or generate arousal
    - Spend copious amounts of money
    - Be dishonest or disingenuous in my approach
    - Continue being excessively analytical in general, especially about game

    Yes, I want to relax, have fun learning and practicing game, and become an honest yet successful womanizer.

    Where do I start?

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    Chaplin is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default Re: Without Reinventing the Wheel

    Go out. Let people to see the best part of your personality. Speak with people. Start with old women. Then start to speak with young women.

    Learn tests, ioi's and negging.

    Buy a personal pua hat. Not of kitsc type. Not too enormous. It will make you more interesting.

    Rejecting tests and getting rejected is the challenge. It can make you to stop your hobby or start to hate women.

    Remember that there is lots of other hobbies in the world, and getting one-night-sex is not the goal of life. You can always stop this thing without losing your honor.

    It is not easy.

    Learn enough about sexually transmitted disease. Being single without std's is better than being single with std's.

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    Default Re: Without Reinventing the Wheel

    Hi Chaplin, thanks for dropping in. When I started this year, the first people I talked to were men and some women I'm not particularly attracted to. My opener was telling them what I was aiming to do (kind of how I introduced myself here).

    As far as getting a good conversation and building rapport, that actually worked pretty well. I have a good intuitive understanding of these concepts when there's no anxiety. But I can't reuse the same opener on the audience I'm speaking about, especially when they make me draw blanks when I'm trying to talk!

    I did try to talk to some women tonight, with little success - either they didn't hook, or they gave me a "you're a tool, what do you think you're doing" vibe, or even had an interested vibe at first (I'm told I look decent) that slowly faded to confusion and disinterest.

    I have the balls to approach, but my confidence isn't especially good and I don't know what I need to hook the conversation, something I'm seeing a lot of guys doing effortlessly. How do you folks open, if it's not a neg?

    And what's your best advice on how not to look or act like a tool?

    EDIT: I am familiar with the concepts you brought up. I'm a little confused about the hat; people say I look good in a fedora, but I'm hesitant to wear one out just because most people don't.

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    Default Re: Without Reinventing the Wheel

    About getting confidence; One method is going to the town and just sit near people. Say something about what is around you. If you are scared of talking, do it so many times you are able to talk. Little by little you can touch womens softly her shoulder. If this is difficult, try to just ask way, or something. Ok, you are maybe at this level.

    About negs. Yes. It is negs, you should start to use. It tells women, that you do not respect their sexuality. You can say for example: "Hello sir. How do you fell being here? It is funny that you are here." Not too rude negs. Try to improve them, because it can be difficult to be self-confident with learnt negs.

    Try to be more self-confident every time. Of course there is worse days, aswell. Everyone has got them. After practising, you will feel self-confident and you can be playful and humorous person. Everyone has got potential for it. When you learn being more self-confident, women test you less.

    Having a pua hat can help you to feel more free and see the world with a new way. You can think: I really do not care do you reject me. I do not need you. I do not care what dyou think how I looks like. Just put 5 or 10 dollars for it. If you start to hate it, just bring it to secon hand store. For feeling more self-confident with the hat, practise wearing it when you are doing normal things, like reading. After it people are not thinking that "haha, he has wearing that hat for first time."

    Remember, that human brains has evoluted in small groups. There man has had to be more careful than in modern wide world. That's why you do not want to take risks. In small groups there was less woman and there was hard competition about them. That's why people around you do not want you to change for being like an alpha male. But do not start to hate them. Friends are the best thing in the world.

    You do not need magic tricks, necessarily. Learn being a good conversationalist. It is good merit outside the pua-community, aswell.

    That's true that there is bad sides in being a pua, aswell. It can give you a lot, but it can destroy your mental health, aswell. So avoid stupid things. Understand the methods of seducing, but use your brains.

    Good luck!


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