I just finished The Game, great read. Believe or not a 21 year old solid 9HB gave me the book to read. She thought I'd already read it. She labelled me a natural straight off which was nice to hear. I'm getting involved here to up my game and add some tools to my arsenal. I'm 34, divorced. I seem to have been a winner in the genetic lottery which definitely helps with my game. I think with a balanced life these books and forums could be a great tool. If guys get to focussed it, like anything else, will destroy them.