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Thread: Beginner In Need, Serious Help

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    Default Beginner In Need, Serious Help

    I went out tonight mainly to have a good night with the boys, but also to try and remove my Approach Anxiety which i kind of did but i attempted to open nearly every decent girl in this club whenever they got near or i saw an opportunity, i spent 5 days prior researching on this site and used every opener i could think of yet every single girl practically laughed in my face. Am i just the ugliest mother fucker going around or have i made some mistake that i haven't realised. i ensured my body language was correct, always open, smiling with my drink in my left hand, i tried direct openers from "that dress looks good on you", too "you are really cute". i tried indirect like "can i ask you a question, my friends hair, would you say its too long or not long enough", they answered my question but then froze me out by paying attention too there phones and ignooring me. I was complete alpha male, anyone who even looked at me wrong got asked what there problem was, being six foot 4 and 95 kg or 209 pound the answer was almost always "nothing mate, your alright. I tried everything i have read and yet am still a totall AFC and cant see an end in sight, should i try a bootcamp or am i all round useless and should give up
    ships don't sink if they have wind in there sails, but if the wind fails is there hope for me

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    Default Re: Beginner In Need, Serious Help

    you may have actually appeared unfriendly when those guys looked at you, instead, you should have started talking to them, oftentimes the easiest way to win girls over is to befriend there guy friends. overall being friendly towards everyone should always be your goal when you go out.

    also, in a club environment humor is essential, the girls there want guys who make them feel good. its not enough to just talk to them, you have to create emotional states within them (the easiest and most effective of witch is laughter of course)

    be the life of the party, you want to be the funniest guy in the room.

    btw I would kill to be 6 foot tall, you have a huge advantage over anyone who is shorter than you. for some reason chicks always prefer taller guys

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    Default Re: Beginner In Need, Serious Help

    thanks for your reply meteora,

    unfortunately being so tall makes me a target, especially in a rural town like the one i live in, everyone seems to see me as an easy target and unless i respond as an agressor i will end up being seen as an inferior male or in a fight, neither of which i am a big fan of. most of the guys i manage to "good bloke" them into getting along with me but by the time i have won them over the girls have lost interest, the guys that i always seem to have trouble with are the AMOG's who wave me off like i am nothing to them, the only response i know is what i call "the gorilla response" which is just me beating my chest louder then them to make me seem like the alpha male and make them sit down, do you have any other ways of dealing with AMOGS who completely disregard you as a person and try to make you appear weak that i should know about as to not seem unfriendly

    Also My attempts at humor often come across as rude or un-witty as i get quite nervouse around women due to my lack of experience with them and my doubts in my own physical appearence
    ships don't sink if they have wind in there sails, but if the wind fails is there hope for me

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    Default Re: Beginner In Need, Serious Help

    Hey TTG,

    Alpha doesn't mean you can look at guys and intimidate them. Alpha means you don't give a fuck about them. You're quietly confident in who you are and you know if someone starts with you , you will finish it. In other words you're reacting by being non-reactive because you're confident in who you are.

    Gonna give you fool proof method, mate.

    First, pick your target (I hate that word). Go up to her, make a comment about the environment e.g. "Cool bar, reminds me of one I saw in Sydney." Anything about the environment will do. You then introduce yourself, get her name and then eject. Say, "cool nice meeting you, Jane . Maybe I'll see you later."

    This will lessen your aa because your intent here is to eject anyway. So if you get a cold shoulder so fucking what.

    10-15 minutes later "bump" into her again and resume. This tricks the mind into a sense of familiarity and bitch shields etc will be lower.

    rs5096

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    Default Re: Beginner In Need, Serious Help

    I agree with you rs506, but you don't want to train yourself to "self eject" (its a hard habit to break it if you start it) instead try to stay in set for as long as possible, even if it causes your convos to go stale, you will learn more from longer sets.

    Also My attempts at humor often come across as rude or un-witty as i get quite nervouse around women due to my lack of experience with them and my doubts in my own physical appearence
    it takes lots of practice to get any good at all. most naturals have been having thousands of interactions every year to add up to make a great amount of experience. it takes lots of time to get good. don't expect immediate results. being friendly is the way to go, I suggest you read "how to win friends and influence people" by dale Carnegie as well as "how to meet and connect with woman" by wayne elise

    you will learn to be more and more open minded and to not think so much about how people see you. it will take thousands of approaches for you to become proficient at pua. time and practice is what makes the difference between the master and the nubie.

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    Default Re: Beginner In Need, Serious Help

    ok so i went out tonight, kind of a quiet night not many people but managed to Number Close with a half decent girl. "how to win friends and influence people" was a great help and i would suggest it to anyone who has trouble's with dealing with people
    ships don't sink if they have wind in there sails, but if the wind fails is there hope for me

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    Default Re: Beginner In Need, Serious Help

    Hey TTG,

    It sounds like you're off to a really good start and are keeping a good attitude. Keep approaching people and learning from every interaction!

    Tom

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    Default Re: Beginner In Need, Serious Help

    Hey ThatTurnerGuy..for more information on Amogging search for article 'TheDuke guide to mixed sets and practical amogging' It's golden
    Whether you think you can or you can't either way, you are right-To believe in the heroic makes heroes


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