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Thread: Newbie to game, turned down on instagram and real life where did I go wrong

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    Default Newbie to game, turned down on instagram and real life where did I go wrong

    Hey what's up guys I am a newbie to gaming but I have a desire to be great. I have finished reading The Game and also looked at some forums and I have started slowly changing my ways of being the ultimate AFC into being the ultimate MPUA(small steps).

    Anyways so recently, I had a HB(possibly a 9) on instagram who I was friends with not the closest friendship but I was familiar with her. I decided to try my approach and newfound confidence in myself on her. This chick is a total hottie and receives a lot of comments from mutual friends telling her how beautiful she is, so on and so forth, a lot of chode talk. So recently she put up a picture of a random quote on her instagram in which i decided that I would disqualify/neg her on. I wrote under the comments, "finally a post that's meaningful". Maybe an hour or so later poof I was blocked, just like that. I am sitting here wondering why. Any help/advice on why this happen would be great. I am the usual nice guy that always gets walked on. Maybe the neg was too much?

    My next situation happened the other day I was on a date with normal looking chick maybe a 6, but her attitude and how she owned me pushed her up to a 7. We go in the date and its going fairly well running my routines, we are talking I am gaming her pretty good at this point. I am hooking her in with conversation and she seems interested. I am asking her disqualifying questions like "why should a guy like me want to talk to you" Im qualifying her by telling her yes you may possibly fit the bill. I think I am establishing good rapport with her and I try escalating by giving her a high five and she says no she does not want to be touched at the moment. I take a sip of my drink lean back and we talk some more about blah blah then I say we have great energy and try to slightly touch her but she quickly moves her hand away. After my second attempt of kino has been destroyed I give up and go back back into nice guy chode mode and end up paying for the drinks etc. The night is over and the chick is boring me now because I checked out trying to figure out where did I go wrong, I begin to yawn in which she insists that we can leave. I comply, pay for the bill then we go our separate ways. The next day she texts me saying "Hey I had a really good time but I dont see this going past a friendship stage" in which I reply " we had fun and good energy, I dont want to force you into anything that you dont want to do" in which I get no response back. Where did I go wrong?


    I am eager for advice/feedback/criticism.
    Thanks to all
    The great Koufax

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    Default Re: Newbie to game, turned down on instagram and real life where did I go w

    The first situation doesn't sound like a neg nor like a disqualifier, but an insult (assuming you were referring to her finally having a meaningful post, not IG in general). Had I been her, I'd block you, too. Try to better understand the distinction between negging and insulting.

    Second situation - she's already on the date with you. While you had the right idea, you used to the wrong word. Again, negging (or getting her to qualify in this case) and insulting are two different things. You should have said something like, "So what would you say is special/unique/interesting about you?" You came off as really arrogant. Again, she's already on the date with you - lighten up and flirt

    But don't stress about this, man. You'll learn from your mistakes in no time, just don't get discouraged and keep practicing

    EDIT - Nothing wrong with paying for a small date like this; even though it didn't work out the way you wanted, you ended up looking better than if you had made her pay for something so small.
    Last edited by Vicodin24; 03-23-2014 at 05:18 PM. Reason: Mo' money, mo' problems
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    Default Re: Newbie to game, turned down on instagram and real life where did I go w

    Dude, the first one wasn't a neg, that was you being a d!ck, no offense, happens with newbies. Shoulda just asked her where the quote was from and started a convo from there.

    As the first guy said, on the date, you came off as kind of a dick.

    My advice is you're overthinking the fark out of all this, common with newbies. You don't need to be running any sort of routine or gaming someone who already is on a date with you. You game first, build attraction, then build rapport on that first date.

    Also, if you're going to neg, maybe look a few up cuz you got the wrong idea. Example: Your hair looks really soft... Is it a wig?
    That's a neg. An insult: Your hair looks fake and weird.

    Get it? In the first example, you compliment her, then go into a playful tease. The second example is just being rude.

    Hope this helps

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    Default Re: Newbie to game, turned down on instagram and real life where did I go w

    There is nothing wrong with paying on the first date, I generally pay the first time out. I see it as my duty as the man taking her out, and I don't see anything wrong with that.

    As said above, you insulted the first girl. In order for a neg to work, it needs to be an underhanded complement. Something like "Wow, I had no clue you could be so deep." would imply that she usually comes off as shallow.

    You should take these as lessons on calibration (don't worry it takes a long time)

    The second girl that you were on a date with, well once you are on a date with a girl there is rarely a reason to neg or get her to qualify. If she is in to you she will begin to qualify naturally. She will tell you something cool about yourself or try to impress you a bit.

    I had to laugh a little because I can remember making the same mistakes, like calling a girl lame after I got her phone number because she told me she wouldn't have her phone turned on until the following thursday haha. It's all good bro we have all done stuff like that, and I have done much worse.

    BTW why don't you just forget about using negs and try to raise everyone else's value instead of lower it. By making everyone else around you feel good your value intuitively increases when you aren't around and others see this, and i t increases your value by default. Neg's are useful at times but you shouldn't need to use them much, focus on more effective tactics.
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    Default Re: Newbie to game, turned down on instagram and real life where did I go w

    Lol reminds me of when i told a girl, she has the same name as my dog

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    Default Re: Newbie to game, turned down on instagram and real life where did I go w

    Shoulda put instead:

    "Finally a post that's meaningful...on Facebook" or instagram or w/e.


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