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Old 05-23-2010, 04:02 AM
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Okay, so first off, I'm brand new to this forum. I remember a few years ago I read Neal Strauss's book "The game" and liked the idea of it however never really took it on or gave it a go. Now I am wishing I had. I am starting to notice a common theme with the girls that I meet. Not all of them, but only the ones that I actually like. I'm hoping you guys can set me straight.

Firstly, I'm a reasonably attractive, confident 25 year old living in Sydney Australia. I have no issues having a conversation with people and can often be the life of the party. Once I meet someone I usually always get on well with them. This works well with meeting girls too, however lately I've noticed that the ones I like are very quickly putting me in the dreaded friendzone. I pick up the usual amount of average women, but it seems the ones I actually really like always do this to me.

The most recent attempt occurred to me last night. I met this girl at a nearby office for the company I work for. We spent the week working together and we hit it off really well. There were two other guys working with us and both of them were falling over each other to try and pick her up. I just focussed on my work and eventually over time became more familiar with her. We have exactly the same sense of humour, common interests and when we're talking the hours just fly by. She even said to me that she hasn't met anyone recently who she gets on with as well as she is with me. I forgot to mention that this girl is an 11/10. Smoking hot!

Anyway, I get her number and suggest we go out. We agree to meet up in the city (last night). All went well and my friends and hers all got on well too. My friends ended up leaving early so I stayed with her group. We had a heap of drinks and had an awesome time. There was a decent amount of cheeky flirting involved and we got on great. I ended up going back to her place with one of her other friends too. At like 5-6am we were sitting on the couch talking and watching a movie. She kept saying how well we were getting on and how she doesn't normally "click" with people like she has with me. She ended up laying on me and cuddling sort of. I basically assumed that I was in for sure and that we would be going to her bed soon.

I can't remember how it started, but without warning she got onto the topic of being friends! She said that she doesn't want anything to come of this but definitely wants to keep hanging out with me! WTF?? I have absolutely no idea where this came from and it's really knocked me about. I know it's hard for you guys to go off only a few paragraphs of writing, but I was so sure that I was in with her. Even guys who had seen us at work commented on how well we were getting on. This is the third time this sort of thing has happened to me and I would LOVE one of you guys to be able to suggest why? The only thing I can think of is that we became too familiar. As in, during the week at work I passed the point where it would have been appropriate to act and she became too comfortable with me, seeing me as a friend? Oh and another thing. During the week she was complaining to me about how guys don't chase her at clubs and that she hadn't picked up in such a long time. I'm really at a loss as to why this has occurred and any advice would be greatly appreciated.


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Old 05-23-2010, 04:08 AM
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Further to that. The only thing that I can think of is that I didn't create enough "sexual attraction" of sorts. So no matter how much we clicked and got on well, there wasn't that added extra part where she becomes attracted to me in that way. Hence viewing me as a friend instead... I really don't know.


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Old 05-29-2010, 10:10 AM
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Hello, im kinda new to the forum but I'm following the comunity of pickup artists for a year and so.. Even without really trying to practice all of the pickup stuff (like ioi's, KINO, dhv etc.) I've managed to pick some hot girls during this year thanks to Mysterys book.
I think that you're problem was that you were taking it too slow, you know what I mean? you should have done it faster than you did. I guess that at first she was waiting for you to make a move (maybe even subconsciously). but then, when time passed by she felt that the connection between you is perfect for a friend zone. maybe I'm wrong.

Anyway this is what I think. btw sorry if I have some mistakes with my english.

Good luck


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Old 05-29-2010, 11:30 AM
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lol thats exactly it. the difference between a friend and a lover is how you sit in her mind. maybe you werent building enough sexual attraction (which was probably it) or maybe you werent alpha enough to naturally get her attracted to you. you did take it somewhat slow but if you work with the chick just talk her and there but when you do throw game, make her laugh, tease her and get her attracted. cause then she will be getting attracted and when it comes time to take her out you will be good. you mentioned nothing of a kiss when you were out. you needed to Isolate her and make a move. cause if not she will go from wow this guy is amazing to your such a good friend. lol bad luck mate but yeah you need to just step up your game and make a move. obviously if you have gotten to her place and not made a move or will for the next hour...your screwed...haha


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Old 05-30-2010, 12:04 AM
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Yeah it was a bit of a tough situation due to working the whole week with her as there jsut wasn;t an opportunity to act. Plus the night out over the weekend she had mates with her the whole time and I couldn't Isolate at all. I definitely stuffed up and I agree with all of the above points.
Of course you guys don't know all the info, but what do you think? Recoverable error or is it best to learn from it and move on?


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lol you can recover. there have been times where girls i have been friends with want me really bad. you just need to peak her interest, make her laugh, neg a little bit, get her attracted, do plenty of Sexual Tension, kiss close and then be memorable with positive feelings. You only have one foot in the friend zone. just dont get completely in there. and you can always Isolate. tell her to come talk for a second, take her to the bar for a shot, go for a smoke, go dance, do whatever you need to isolate and make the move and it doesnt matter if her mates see, as long as they are not in the immediate vicinity, then your good. nothing will get in the way


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Old 05-30-2010, 06:31 AM
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Dude,
If things get stalled, you can always Roll Off and come back in later.

meanwhile I'd say to develop your sexual skills: that's the best thing for confidence and "sexual attraction"

peace


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