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Thread: PLEASE HELP

  1. #1
    Misanthrope Guest

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    ]Hey guys. I know im supposed to have a pseudonym but i think its better if we have a degree of honesty between members in the community, so im going to properly introduce myself. My name is Josh, im 19 years old, and im a college student in NY.
    I am actually a pretty good looking guy, but the problem is that i lack the self confidence to spark up conversations. And its not like im stupid or anything either; im actually pretty smart and funny around people when im not nervous, but of course, i do get nervous. Usually i talk just enough to answer the question but never really add anything to continue it. IN FACT, even when a girl opens me, i find it hard to just launch into a genuine conversation, let alone a full blown pick up attempt, so i might come off as shy or just straight up rude.

    ANyway, thats my introduction. Currently, there is a girl in my psych class that Ive taken the liberty of sitting next to. On a scale of 1-10, i would give her about a 7. Ive sat next to her for a few weeks now and i havent really said much at all. Im planning on asking her some stuff about our research credits tomorrow as a sort of natural, nonthreatening opener. To be honest, i think she might be attracted to me already, but im not quite sure what to do about it yet because im a socially retarded AFC! ill let u know how it goes.

    ANY IDEAS, COMMENTS, ETC?
    Last edited by Misanthrope; 10-27-2010 at 11:01 PM.

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    Default Re: PLEASE HELP

    tons of things you can do, take small steps.

    your problem is: YOU CARE TOO MUCH WHAT OTHERS THINK OF YOU. It is a huge problem for most humans. the most successful people and the people who have the most fun in life and experience the most joy are people who dont care what others think.

    solution: study PUA and practice! there is a thread on here of a guy just like you who simply started a thread and said im determined and im gonna go out and do it! he started by just talking to anyone old ladies, guys, tellers etc.... by the end of it he was getting really good and had no confidence problems.

    stop caring what other people think, practice practice practice and read read read. good luck
    Last edited by yesman; 10-28-2010 at 12:41 AM.

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    Default Re: PLEASE HELP

    yeah one of the things about this stuff is not everyone is going to like you. i mean i have been to clubs , bars and parties where im lots of fun and high energy but ur always going to have people hating. i mean i had one guy that just hated on me cause i wasnt even trying to pick up the girl he was going for and she was all over me. haha

    so some of the best i can give you. GET USED TO GETTING REJECTED AND DONT CARE WHAT PEOPLE THINK. those are probably two of the fundamental things u can learn. i would suggest you check out a program called the unbreakable system. it is amazing for inner game and it will completely shape ur attitude to be more alpha
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    Ok so i said that i was gonna update on my progress in the game or whatever, so here goes.

    FIRST

    I actually opened my mouth and asked her the question today, after a half a semester of remaining relatively quiet. Her response was pretty much neutral, and by that i mean all that happened was that she answered the question and we both just kinda parted ways. Very anticlimatic, I know, but i didnt really expect much else because its such a boring question. i figure at least there is some sorta weak relationship now.

    I feel like i waited too long to ask becuz i had to wait until the end of class to do it; our professor is really strict about talking during class and shit. So even if she did wanna keep the convo going, there really wasnt much time, you know? However, for some reason i still feel like she is somewhat attracted becuz she keeps doing stuff like randomly looking over at me and then glancing away, shit like that. I feel like that is one of the most noticeable IOIs that i get from girls becuz its so easy to tell what they're doing. I feel very alpha when i catch girls doing this in the act lol.

    SECOND

    There are 2 other girls in my other psych class that i get IOIs from, at least i think. I will refer to them as chickA and chickB. ChickB sits to my right and is hotter than chickA, who sits to my left. I would rate them as 6.5 and 7.5 . ChickB is apparently really shy, but always makes some sort of effort to sit by me, which i take as an ioi. IN FACT, today i switched my seat just to get closer to chick B, and lo and behold, Chick A moves next to me! Proximity alert?
    Perhaps.

    Anyway, i guess my problem in both situations is that i dont really have much to say to any of them. SO, with that said. CAn someone please gimme some good openers, routines, lines, etc, that are not too cheesy and will get the job done? I am aware that i can improvise, but it would be better for me if i could have like some sort of formula readily available that i can refer to.

    PS: to be honest, i am not really overly attracted to any of these girls, but i feel that they were moderately attractive enough to practice on. so if my "pickup" actually works, i would feel kinda bad b/c i dont know if ill be able to actually like them that way. but at least ill be able to make some new friends right?

    QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, RESPONSES, IDEAS?!

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    yesman Guest

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    awesome job!!! you approached a girl in a tough situation and u didnt mention anything about being nervous. im sure you were but you didnt let it stop you. as far as openers and conversation. get a game plan ahead of time tons of info on this site and others for you but im sure you can come up with stuff on your own if you think about it long enough. get her opinion on something.

    also, there might be less pressure on yourself to succeed if you choose girls to approach that you will never see again. but keep it goin, every approach will be easier and easier

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    Yesman, i appreciate ur replies and they've been very encouraging, but I feel like im stuck in one phase of this game and i cant get out of it.
    For instance, i understand the general idea of the game. I understand that you're supposed to open, you're supposed to demonstrate value, you're supposed to neg, and ur supposed to be different and interesting and just overall the boss. However, its the actual details that i need help with, not just encouragement.

    Thats not to say that your posts havent helped, but i would appreciate if someone, anyone, would give me some examples of routines that they've used in the past, preferably someone with experience. Even a few openers would be nice. BUT, MY MAJOR PROBLEM RIGHT NOW IS THIS: lets say i open chickA or chick B with a casual opener, what is the next step???! Its not like I can just approach a girl, open her, and then start negging her, right? And if i just open her and then blank out, then what? Do you see what im trying to say? I pretty much dont know where to go from the opener; i feel like there is another few subtle steps im supposed to make before i start DHVing and negging and all that good stuff.

    Once again, any help is appreciated.

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    HAHA
    today, i was searching thru this forum for good openers and whatever, and i came across a really really good one by someone called Amino2.
    It goes like this:
    " hey can i ask u something? Do i look gay? Because some guy on the street just started hitting on me and i didnt really know what to do, and it seemed like he was really convinced i was gay. "

    If she says yes: "Wow, really? how?" and then just take it from there i guess..
    and if she says no: " yeah i didnt think so either." and so on and so forth
    ANYWAY, THIS IS THE KINDA INFO/CONTRIBUTION IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR, SO FEEL FREE TO POST WHAT YOU KNOW WORKS REALLY WELL FOR U OR OTHERS.

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    Default Re: PLEASE HELP

    yeah but that can only go so far. i mean it could start up a nice convo but overall its how you transition is better. remember u dont need the perfect opener. you just need to know how to talk and have fun and make her laugh and have fun. but yeah its not bad
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