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Thread: Hi, I'm horrible with women. It doesn't make much sense to me.

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    Default Re: Hi, I'm horrible with women. It doesn't make much sense to me.

    well thanks. i guess being respectful is just part of my nature. i used to be one to try and be disrespectful back but since trying to transition from PUA to social man. its better to just give value and all that. it works out a lot acutally haha.

    ok well you can actually touch a girl or high five them within a few minutes if not once opening them. i have used direct openers and had went to touching them on the shoulders within the first 2 minutes. you can do it right off the bat, you just need to do it quickly like her skin in a hot pan. Kino is good unless done for too long. then its creepy. and the places PUA usually are, there are always situations to make those moves since clubs are bars are usually packed. just take the time to take there hand and lead them or lead them by the small of there back.

    thats wierd i have never read the game. im probably one of the only PUA's who havent.

    but yeah when u have time i have plenty of examples of things from pandoras box (which you will probably like a lot) and then from race de preists program b4utxther. if you end up liking it and one day have money. its totally worth the buy. im sure after seeing some of it your going to want to see more. its the bible of text game.
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    Default Re: Hi, I'm horrible with women. It doesn't make much sense to me.

    What's a decent opener to use?

    My friend who's slept with 200 women says he just compliments their eyes, or will ask if he can use their phone call his phone, leave a message, thank them. Then later thank them for letting him use the phone. While hanging out with him I notice he's got a different girl over everyday. He said he learned through trial and error.

    The main thing he says is to pretend [unless you don't have to pretend] to be interested in what they're into and compliment their qualities. Then to show interest but never act as if it's a big deal if she says yes or no.

    What's pandora's box about? Fuck it, I'll just go check it out.

    I used to never get angry at people even though I knew they weren't being very nice. I was nice to everyone anyway. The sincere, I'm not trying to gain by being nice to you, kind of nice. Not the nice where you do things just to get something in return.

    But so many people have so many times taken advantage of that and been cruel and rude that I felt a need to defend myself. Not entirely sure how to stand up for myself without coming off as an asshole.

    My limited research covers only the basics I already knew [then my book was stolen before I got to the meat and potatoes]. Like a response to "if you [insert positive quality] then you'd [insert something I want you to do for me]." {"If you really loved me then you'd buy me expensive, yet useless, shiny things like diamonds and such." fits the formula}. It's broken down that you'd respond to the if statement but never the "then" statements. So, "When did you start thinking I didn't love you?" is a response that defends you without you looking like an ass.

    Do you know anything more in depth about things like that?

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    Default Re: Hi, I'm horrible with women. It doesn't make much sense to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chime View Post
    What's a decent opener to use?
    If my time in the game has taught me anything its this: the words don’t matter when you open. It more about your nonverbal and over all confidence and showing your self as someone who is secure in who they are, and what they have to offer.

    Keep in mind that men can figure out if a woman is a suitable mate by looking at them in moments, so can a woman. But they don’t judge you looks, they judge your status. Im currently reading an Ebook about being high status and said it best when it talks about woman being about to see you in the “pecking order” of the men around you. In other words, women want the high status male, the one that is the Alpha.

    As far as the other stuff, well im tired of arguing with you about it. So I will leave it with this: Im going to try to offer you some help. I think you have some walls up and I hope they come down in time. Understand that we are here to help

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    Default Re: Hi, I'm horrible with women. It doesn't make much sense to me.

    Okay, so what do you say when you're talking to a girl, say....a cute server.

    Dress nice, work out, stand with good posture, speak as if what I have to say is relevant and all. If I have nothing to say it isn't very good.

    I say things like "You have nice eyes." Then after hearing thank you might ask her to tell me about herself. Which works on some chicks but not all chicks.

    What's something you would say?


    I just REALLY hate being called average.

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    Default Re: Hi, I'm horrible with women. It doesn't make much sense to me.

    I don’t compliment a girl on their looks as an opener. I try to use something more situational. And that’s hard to give an example of cause they are all off the cuff.

    The trick about opening is that you want to invoke a response. This is stupidly easy all you have to do is show yourself to be a high quality person and have confidence and some humor and she will respond. When they do follow that thread for a moment then cut to something new. Avoid the normal where are you from what do you do questions. She gets these all the time so be different. Try cold reads, learn how to dhv, and start Kino right away.

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    Default Re: Hi, I'm horrible with women. It doesn't make much sense to me.

    ........
    You don't remember anything you've said off hand.
    I learn much better from examples.

    i.e. Hearing the statment "if you love me then you'll buy me a diamond ring." And being told the reaction is to respond to the "if you love me..." part but neglect the other part. Then further having the explanation that the end is a trap gets me to the point where I can tell you "if you [insert positive quality] then you'd [insert do something I want you to do]." as a basic form of manipulation. So every sentence that fits this pattern I now recognize.


    Why don't you compliment a girl on looks ever?
    And have you ever used MBTI for cold reading? To an extent you can guess a type very easily. I get pretty positive reactions from that and they usually ask how I knew. Then want to know more after I mention that I read about Carl Jung and Jung typology a lot.

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    Default Re: Hi, I'm horrible with women. It doesn't make much sense to me.

    I don’t know what MTBI is. Ive got a lot of info about cold readings from pandoras box. That’s what its all about.

    I don’t compliment a girl on her look at first cause 95% (ok not a real stat but you get the point) of guys will try to open with that. In a situational I might make a comment about another table, or ask a question thats relevant to the situation, ive even been as stupid to make a situational opinion opener about does she find it creepy when guys try to pick her up at work (didn’t work to well but it was fun). Situational are just that situational.

    Next time I go out ill make an effort to write down some openers for you.

    One of my all-time favorites to use in a noisy club is “good thing this music is so loud no you don’t have to pretend not hear me.” Say it with a smile, and know it’s a joke. Every time I have used it they have opened. I actually met my current gf using that one.
    That’s a situational. You are making a comment about the current situation or environment and are making it relevant to her. Also you are making it fun and different. That’s the goal.

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    Default Re: Hi, I'm horrible with women. It doesn't make much sense to me.

    How do I delete my account here?
    I no longer want it.

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    Default Re: Hi, I'm horrible with women. It doesn't make much sense to me.

    ok ill just give u an infraction because u are bringing down the attitude of the forum, your not offering much to the forum and making people mad. thanks for trying to learn but u dont have an open mind and probably wont succeed with women anyways.

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    Default Re: Hi, I'm horrible with women. It doesn't make much sense to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by crobinson1 View Post
    ok ill just give u an infraction because u are bringing down the attitude of the forum, your not offering much to the forum and making people mad. thanks for trying to learn but u dont have an open mind and probably wont succeed with women anyways.

    bye
    What was that for? That was all of a sudden, I just asked how I could delete my account.

    PUA doesn't help me much, and I no longer have much interest in learning it.
    I've been reading about it since 2002. It's 2010 now and I've seen very little results. Actually I've seen it backfire more than help.


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