Hi, I'm horrible with women. It doesn't make much sense to me.

Shy....no
Lack on confidence....no
Funny.....girls and guys say I'm hilarious, I know the difference between being laughed at and laughed with.

Girls either want to be my friend, or don't want me. Even the ones who want to be my friend don't hang out with me much. Girls generally don't know why they are or aren't attracted to a guy, so I no longer bother asking.

Trial and error hasn't shown much fruitation, not how it does with everything else. A lot of what I read doesn't seem to work.

Best thing I have is knowing when a girl likes me or doesn't better than the average guy.

Most trouble is saying something that gets more than a one word response [and no, I'm not always asking yes or no questions nor questions that could simply be answered with one word like "what's your favorite color?"]

give us examples of questions you ask girls,and do you apply Kino and Sexual Tension?

ok bro i have posted this exact thing before. and im not kinding i didnt want to rewrite it so i copy pasted it. u know AFC adam right? ok well he gave advice one time on how to naturally get better with women. even if u dont get into this whole PUA thing and u dont want to study about women and attraction there are three things that all naturals have that make them good with women. im not saying this to lie or trick. its true, adam girlfriend and adam analyzed every natural that ever hit on his girlfriend for a year or so and found what they have that makes them so good with women without knowing a single thing about pick up. these are the three things.


the three things all naturals have that seems to up there game and make them naturally good with women are....
-Confidence- DUH...confidence is on the list for sure. if ur not confident girls wont find u attractive but u said it wasnt a problem so ur good there.
-Abundance of women in there life- you need to have women in ur life. when u lack women in ur life she is going to feel like ur sometimes desperate for female attention and she also wont feel like she needs to try and kee ur attention. trust me sometimes girls will compete against other girls even if they are just a friend. they want to portray that they have you. i got this down with a girl i know that is a friend. she seems to give off a vibe and whenever i go out and start gaming, girls seem to try and compete with her cause me and her are really cool and it looks like im gaming her. so girls compete against her. perfect wingwomen :P
-THE ABILITY TO SEXUALLY ESCALATE- lots of guys have the first two and lack on this third one. when a guy s confident and has women is his life but cant sexually escalate then he is THE FRIEND. the perfect guy for her but that she cant see herself dating cause u failed. start out normally and work your way towards grabbing her by the waist, touching thigh to thigh, stomach to stomach and then even more sexual. you need to turn her on. so obviously if theres cuddlying then theres touching just know your hot spots. the neck, lower back, inside thigh, stomach, waist and all the other ones. all those areas are very sexual and get a girl turned on. so whenever she is kenoing the sh1t out of you in the club ....WORK YOUR KENO!!! so of course u dont want to freak her out. start out normally but dont be the guy who is really fun and all that but that she cant see herself with. u need to turn her on and that starts with keno. trust me i think this is ur problem. ur genuine but u need to mix in some of a bad side. start being more sexually, not overly sexually but after a while mix in some fun questions that can be taken wrong. one that i do that at first freaks her out but then is funny cause she took it wrong. its usually during some fun question game "top or bottom?" she will say hers, say the opposite but then follow up. "bottom.......yeah i always start brushing my teeth on the bottom." then tease her. u need to be able to get her thinking sexually about you

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No offense, but you sound like the e-mails I get that I don't read.
There's a reason I don't read them. They start off sounding like a sales pitch, with a bunch of hot air and words I could care less about. Within a whole paragraph, sometimes, nothing relevant or useful is said. Then when I get to what I was looking for to begin with, it could've been condense to 3 sentences. And it's not that useful.

I'm not trying to read a whole 3 paragraphs for only 2 or 3 sentences worth of substance.

Kino is a little bullsh1t.
I've gotten girls all over me by giving none. I've gotten girls to avoid me by doing everything that's said to be incorrect.

What I say to girls when I meet them if nothing comes to mind is "Hi, I'm [my name]"
If they're at a coffee shop, i'll ask if they want to play cards, or something like that. If they're doing a fun activity I ask about it. Nothing overly elaborate, because the overly elaborate "openers" [which I think is just a fancy way to say pick up line] generally don't work. I'm sure there's some "Canned material" that's going to work, but eventually people are going to know you're not sincere.

Going from meeting a chick to getting her to want me is what stumps me. A bar near me chick will blatantly ignore you and snub you if you try to say anything to them. So I don't go there. The one next to it has chicks just as hot who're much more friendly.

OK well… sorry you feel like crob sounded like an email, but the reality is he knows his stuff. Reality is this: your game isn’t work and as a result you have come to us for help. So before i even give you my opinion im going to say this: take down your walls and realize you came to us. We didn’t seek you out and we didn’t recruit you to this site. If you want our help myself, crob, prjav and plenty of others will be willing to help, but within your first three posts you explained how you aren’t getting any, then criticize one of the top posters on this site saying he sounds like a sales pitch, and then say keno is trash. You want our help? Loss the attitude and let us help!!!

Ill wait for your response before I give you my opinion… I don’t want to waste my time.

I don't know how much it'll help.
I'll willing to see what you have to say.

See you don't want help. Your already saying it won't help.

Why should I?
What do you want? What are you trying to get out if this?

ok well bro. its true u came here asking for help. since ur info was broad i have to assume ur a complete beginner and AFC and have no idea what ur doing. and just in case u dont want to be a PUA u should just learn to be better with women. so my advice to u since u think it was bad. i would still suggest the three things above but then have a very strong, fun, playful frame and know how to be a person a girl wants to be with. and just to let u keno works amazingly cause u dont want to be the idiot that just rushes in for a kiss after no touching.

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I said it wont help? I don't remember saying that. Could you show me where I said that at? I would like to see this.

I am not average in anything I do. Do not call me average [and don't make the assumption I think I'm better than average at everything I do because I've stated that I'm not average at anything.].

What type of person does a girl want to be with?
What qualities does this person have?
How do you display you have these qualities?

Keno is like Donnie Darko, Final Fantasy VII, or anything else that's great, but no where near as great as all the hype makes it out to be. It's also not needed to get laid, nor kiss a girl. It can be useful to get to those points. But it's not needed.

Anyway, here's a message I recently sent to a girl.

ten were sent like so
Title: Hey cutie
Body: You have any fun plans this week.

Ten were sent like this
Title: How's it going?
Body: You have any fun plans this week.

example of the 2nd version.

Her response:
just hanging out with some friends and going to a party for new years. and do i no you? lol

My response:
I'm [my name]. Just being social making new friends. If you're not a crazy stalker we could hang out sometime.

her:
what if i am a crazy stalker you never no with myspace? lol jk but idk we will see, you no we just met lol

Me:
You don't own a grappling hook and binoculars do you? Haha.
You've got a good sense of humor . I like that. Not a good enough reason to hang out

her:
lol how did you no i had those things have you been in my closet? and thanks i say a sence of humor keeps people alive (: lol and maybe if we get to no each other more we might can hang out!!

me:
Where're you from?
Tell me a funny story about yourself.

Last message is currently unread. What was done right, and what was done wrong there? And more importantly, why?


The messages that start off with "Hey cutie" in the title didn't get as many responses. So I stopped sending them.