I''m a new member with a couple PUA friends who keep telling me how valuable lessons learned from PUA are in the real-world. I'm skeptical though Perhaps it's an American thing but the "frat boy" culture in the States has often been cited as one of the major reasons behind the US's decline as a major international power. There's definitely a culture clash on hand as America's in your face McDonalds and Starbucks on every corner extroverted PUA style goes up against the eastern introverted style. Personally I'm Asian American so I have no bias on which is preferable but as a general rule striving for short term gain is the most obvious sign of lack of intelligence. So where is the long term benefit in PUA?