Making the change.....

Hi there,

Im new to the forum, from PA. I have done my own online research on PUA, and read as many threads as I could as a beginner on here. I have to say there is alot of good info on here. Kinda alot of common sense stuff that I already know, but need to hear again in different words.

I do have a couple of questions regarding some of the programs out there, but I still want to search the threads prior to asking so I dont ask something for the millionth time.

From what research I did, It seems my traditional values need some revamping, if I can ask now; has anyone who had previously treated a lady traditionally ie: opens doors for her, buys dinner, doesnt neg her....have any problem or difficulty ADJUSTING your own personality to that of a PUA...? And did you notice results from the change..?

Thanks for all the info fellas,

Nightman

I personally used to have AFC tendencies. I think there is a time and place for everything. I am currently reading "The pickup artist" by Mystery. There is no where that is set in stone saying that you can't "open doors for women or buy her dinner." There is just a time and place for these things. Don't buy a girl dinner to try to gain her approval. It makes you look like a chump. Buy her dinner once she is looking to gain yours. Then it is a reward for her ioi's.

Here is what I mean. Don't buy stuff or do nice things for a girl before you have built attraction. He talks about being like Rhett Butler from "Gone with the Wind." At one point a woman says to him "sir you are not a gentleman." and he responds with "Maim you are not a lady." Meaning you don't try to be a nice guy to build attraction. I also think that you can't let a girl treat you like a door mat even if you have built attraction.

I just took a girl out last Thursday, and I paid for dinner. Then we went out and she asked if I minded if she got our drinks. I said "I am all for letting you pay for them." That is a girl that is not looking to walk all over me. She understands there is give and take.

A time and place.

Don't ask to buy a girl a drink off the bat. Make her earn it.

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