Need fellow PUA's advice

I had a problem with a friend and I need advice on how to handle this.He use to be my wingman.We still go out here and there.We use to push this hard back in 2010 till he pulled a move on my girl at the time.He was drunk but nevertheless.
He is asking me to team up with him again.I am completely turned when im around him. He is talking saying oh you just suck etc trying to play with my mind...I said as he completely screwed me over before the only fair way is he has to owe me back. I understand the concept about bro hood but he has pulled a move more then once. I don't think he is truthworthy. Advice please people....
I said if he wants me to push this again he needs to owe me the same amount he messed up as it happened more then once. If it was a inset mess up w.e but i was dateing her for 4 monthes at the time and the last was1.5 months.

Wingmen should never OWE each other anything. I'm sorry, but ditch the guy. If he can't be a decent wing, then he obviously doesn't take PUA seriously. He doesn't respect you, or the Art.

Wingmenship is about having each other's backs all the time.

You should NEVER feel some sort of Tension between you both.

OOKE is right. If you've read The Game, even though its almost more of an indictment of the community than anything else, you know that the community is just as much about the brotherhood among fellow craftsmen as it is each individual's goals with women. We are all united under the banner of throwing off the yolks of inadequate and unfulfilling relationships and bettering ourselves and each other. If your old wing would repeatedly betray you, he obviously doesn't subscribe to the ideals of the Community. He's out for himself, he's not a brother, and he doesn't deserve your time. He doesn't owe you anything; nobody owes anyone. Its Karma. What we put out will come back to us, good or bad. Cut your losses and move on from this person. He's poisonous and not the kind of person you need or want with you in the trenches, especially with a brotherhood like ours at your back.

Great responses both of you couldn't agree more. .

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Here's my two cents, i never read Mystery.. but I like to honour what is called courtesy.. if you reached the girl first .. it's all yours and I'll even make you look like a king with the girl....

when you pick a wingman, it's like a couple.. they have to complement you well. So go out and make sure the wing understand thir role, and it should be a learning process for both parties.. it shouldn't be a competition, if u want competition, crash a bar alone...

Three Missile Silo's are better than one Missile Silo.

Yes, I just made a weapon comparison, and you'll see why...


If I were to get a lady first, I would then use my social status to increase the dhv of my wings, so we're all on the same level, and they are introduced to my lady's friends. After a short period of time, all three of us will be together, and have ladies, and be the life of the club, consistently making each other look better and better, raising our DHV on an equal scale. (I usually neg my target quite a bit so she isn't as close to me in a large social conversation, therefore attracting more ladies to our gathering as they think there's chance they can steal me, or one of my other wing brothers)

After a while, the three of us together as three wings create a nuclear missile of a group keeping them entertained with our bizarre stories (which.. again, we can use to our advantage making ourselves look good equally.)

I look at myself and my two friends as three wings. There is no main "Guy". We all stand out together, and make each other look ridiculously good.

When you stand out that much, who wouldn't want to be a part of it?

My friends and I have tried many combinations over the year, and this never fails to please.... ALL OF US.

Remember to speak loud and confidently to everyone. It will carry past your group, and attract others. Be that loud guy with interesting conversation, and you will lead a group. Have THREE of you be this guy who all help each other out, and you'll have fun.



If new people start joining your group, make sure you say something that involves them...

Wing 1: "Hey.. Doesn't she look like her?!

Wing 2: Ye- OH! That woman I saw crash into a bank. *she'll have a silly lighthearted reaction* -nono! but I'm sure you're a good driver! *with a smile* What's your name!?" Then introduce her. You've just neg'd her, and introduced her to the group.

Wing 3: I dunno man, *to some other random girl* hey, do you think women are good drivers?!

Wing 1: "Kay, you know what??! Who here HASNT crashed before?? Lets see some hands!"

Wing 3: *Points to yet another random girl with her hand up* "HEY, were YOU the bank crasher?"

Wing 2: "Caught red handed! Look, her hand is right up there!"

Wing 1: *Pointing at the other girls with their hands up, or who had their hands up* "I think these ladies were all in the same car!"

Wing 2: *Looking at Wing 3* "Hey Mr.LawSchool, what can we charge these ladies with?"

Wing 3: "UMMM not introducing their friends is a pretty heavy fine!"

You guys get the picture.

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I like to call this "Nuke-Grouping" as all three wings gain immense DHV between all those involved in the group, and all of those outside the group who see you three as the center of attention. This ensures EASY pickups when you return to this club, of find these people elsewhere. IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE THREE WINGS. It can be less or more. More Wings = Bigger Nuke.

**Note that you three wings should constantly be circulating the group conversation to each other so nobody else becomes the center of attention.

**Now, considering you all are the life, and are all equal, two of you always have the choice to then make one wing look like the god.

I know I'm going off on a tangent-
-but all I have to say is for the love of god.. WORK. TOGETHER. It can be glorious..

pretty sure.. that was what I was saying above in 2 lines.

but groups of 3 works as well.. but it can fail in a way where she can think you are just talking and no action .. or they lose interest .. or too much is happening ... i like 1 wings to open 2 - 3 girls, and 2 for 3+...