Never neg when online dating/emailing

I've come to the conclusion, do not neg/tease while doing the emailing. I find it almost always goes badly. Now don't get me wrong, neg/teasing in person to build rapport is good. But online it always seems to be taken the wrong way. Here are some reasons why:

a) Low self-esteem.

Many of the women, have super low self-esteem for themselves. Just think of how many women lie about their profiles to some degree. Whether it's doctored camera shots, calling their body style "avg" etc. You know you are already dealing with self esteem issues.

b) lack of body language

No way to communicate that you are only kidding/joking around. You can use smilee faces like but that sometimes gets regarded as showing lack of confidence.

So, I conclude that despite how well regarded negs are to the PUA community, it is way too dangerous a game with online dating.

never say never.

While I understand and agree with what you're saying, I would say when not to use them online is just less, or not as soon. whenever a chick is getting in a groove and getting real comftorable, even online, you need to use some Push-Pull and not let them think they've already wone or that you're a sucka or chump. They can be misconstrued, so better to use light ones or not as serious/ damaging ones. Also, the kind of negs I uce often are things that can be taken a couple ways or are not necessarily insults, but things a girl is likely to take wrong or wonder what you *really* meant by it.

wow, you're online a lot. you should get out more (or, maybe you need more friends?)

That picture make you look really... (young/ old/ professional/ nerdy/ down syndrom)

They say that that kind of top/dress/jeans are thinning.

That's your best picture (about a not very good one/ horrible pic)

Can you type faster?

Are you trying to think of a response? (after a pause)

Not too harsh, not too soon, and not too often, but NOT never.

Just curious, how long do you wait before asking for her number or IM?

I just got that new Online game course and it says to ask in the second email. Internet dating mastery advises 3-5 emails.

I find sometimes women just go cold, after the third email. I don't think I'm saying anything wrong so I assume I'm not asking fast enough.

well my technique is a little slower, I cast a wide net and breed familiarity rather than go kill kill kill and try to bed all girls in 1-3 meetings. I dunno if the #'s stack up to Mystery or styles but, I'm really not looking to top 500, jsut trying to stay busy and meet cool chicks. My internet game is quite a bit lower key than in person, keeping it chill and not preassuring and not needy/ chumpish. Mention lots of fun things you do and constantly be "headed out" to do something fun or "jsut getting back from XXX" and you'll have occasion to invite her to anything she shows interest in. I don't really do phone numbers except to coordinate meeting times and places, so if I'm already chatting a girl I wouldnt get the # until I need it to meet her somewhere in case, I dont call to chit chat, too busy and don't like phones. "We can chat in person, or you can call your GF, no, I dont wanna hear about the shoes you got at the mall."

I've had mixed results, the higher quality the woman the more it doesn't work.

1. 6/10 had on her profile, 'she was looking for a hard guy' so I commented that if she can't find a hard man there is always viagra, we exchanged a couple of mails & met up a few times.

2. I told 8/10 that she was demanding and ripped her a little and she negged me back pretty good, again we met up and actually got together for a couple of month.

3. 9/10 pretty much asked why I'd sent her a message, so I made her wait maybe 2 weeks and replied 'obviously I thought you had something going other than your looks, obviously not...' she replied with a list of things she was good at and I negged her again after back and forth replies she called me a douche for negging her.

By nature I'm a ball buster, all in good fun. But it was obvious by the 9/10 attitude she wasn't having none of it, probably used to guys kissing her booty, btw I always made her wait at least a week before replying.

I've had mixed results, the higher quality the woman the more it doesn't work.

1. 6/10 had on her profile, 'she was looking for a hard guy' so I commented that if she can't find a hard man there is always viagra, we exchanged a couple of mails & met up a few times.

2. I told 8/10 that she was demanding and ripped her a little and she negged me back pretty good, again we met up and actually got together for a couple of month.

3. 9/10 pretty much asked why I'd sent her a message, so I made her wait maybe 2 weeks and replied 'obviously I thought you had something going other than your looks, obviously not...' she replied with a list of things she was good at and I negged her again after back and forth replies she called me a douche for negging her.

By nature I'm a ball buster, all in good fun. But it was obvious by the 9/10 attitude she wasn't having none of it, probably used to guys kissing her booty, btw I always made her wait at least a week before replying.

I find it the opposite in regards to 9s and above. They seem to respond to negs better over the internet compared to the 6s and lower at least in my experiences. These girls are too used to getting the "Ur Hawt" "Nice ass" or "Cam?" messages so when someone comes along and gives them a decent ego jab they have responded well. I do agree it is much harder online for negs but not impossible.

In my limited experience, being a bit of a prick online is kinda needed to get your foot in the door.

I mean, you gotta come at them with something different or you just blend in

The pic shows the kind of numbers your up against.