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    Default Girl looking for advice.

    I know this is somewhat unusual, but I'm a girl who has looked at some of these principles and found them interesting. I like the idea of "inner game" etc. If anyone could give me any advice or resources I'd appreciate it.

    I'm fairly attractive but have low self-esteem, convinced myself "all I want is sex," needless to say it left me hurt. Now I want a relationship, but I want to work on myself.

    What I realized is that I've just been using betas to boost my self-image... while giving my all to men I sleep with, without asking for anything in return. Which makes me on the same level as my male friends I'm using, in the eyes of the men I sleep with. I know you guys are all about sexually liberated women, but let's face it- we usually lose out in these situations. I want more.. I don't want to have to surround myself with men I'm using, or who are using me. But I'm not used to saying "no".. what are some good ways to go about this?

    Sorry if I'm completely misguided in posting here. I've just seen some surprisingly insightful posts on these types of forums and figured why not.

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    Default Re: Girl looking for advice.

    Hey allr3,

    Read The Power of Now by Eckhartdt Tolle.

    Hope this helps
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    Default Re: Girl looking for advice.

    Don't say no! We don't want to hear that haha. Really a girl writing to a male pickup site? Hmmmm

    Ok if you are genuine and really want advice you can get anything you want from sex. Just look at the prostitution and porn industry. Men put in hard yards. We rarely get anything for free

    Do you understand how hard it is to even talk with women? Women often defy the laws of logic so any advice given to you will be interpretted through your emotional filter anyway. Read the posts on this board. You always have the upper hand - that is evolution and biology. I'm just thankful I am human and not a black widow male spider!

    One thing you might notice is how worried men are about women. It's because we care. You might notice we are afraid to be romantic, it's because we care but are afraid of rejection. You might see from this board and talking to any man in the whole world that women often move on from men quicker than men do women. It's because we care. Its men who write romance novels. Our mission in life is to make women happy whether one accepts or denies it. Choose your friends wisely.

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    Default Re: Girl looking for advice.

    rs- I will thanks! I'm actually becoming much more spiritual after deciding to change, so that looks perfect.

    whitedragon- aw, best of luck to you.. you sound sweet, us women really do appreciate it

    Yes, I know it's difficult for men to approach women. I made eye contact with a guy in a bar for more than a few seconds, after he worked up the nerve to come over he mustered up "Are you playing that game?" (I clearly wasn't, I was just sitting in front of the gambling screen thing), then mumbled something about the food I was eating... since deciding I wasn't going for casual sex anymore, I immediately just put on a bitchy front and he walked away embarrassed.. I mean that was bad on his part, but still, I wish I had been nicer about it. It can't be one extreme or the other.. how do I just have a conversation with a guy and be nice without giving a signal I might want to go home with him? Can't you go out, flirt a bit with a woman who it clearly isn't happening with, but still walk away enjoying yourself and not feeling 'rejected'?

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    Default Re: Girl looking for advice.

    No disrespect Dragon, but all of that seems to come from a beta point of view.

    It's not hard to talk to women. It's hard for beta men to talk to women.

    Women do not defy the laws of logic. That's a bullshit excuse for not wanting to take the time to listen and understand them. Of course there are a few crazies that have no rhyme or reason (I know because I've dated a few), but not most. They have their reasons for what they do. They may be stupid reasons, but reasons none the less.

    Men are not afraid of rejection. Beta men are afraid of rejection.

    If we're going to get into evolutionary psych, women most certainly do not move on faster than men. Women start the moving on process earlier while men are such dumb fucks they don't see the warning signs, leaving them behind in the process and a hard slap to the face when they do finally notice.

    Finally, if your mission in life is to make a woman happy you are going to have a piss poor life.




    Allr3,

    If you want more gender neutral resources, David Wygant is fantastic and works with both men and women. But here's what I have for you, which is also what I tell all other women.

    Be a bitch.

    Seriously. Be a total bitch. Demand respect and refuse to lower your expectations. If you hurt a man's feelings he was a pussy anyway. Don't put out right away because if you do you're showing you have nothing else to offer. By doing these things you are weeding out the boys from the men, and a man is what you want, right? A blossoming relationship is a power struggle until an agreement comes to neutralize it.




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    Default Re: Girl looking for advice.

    God I can't even remember writing my post, I must have written that on the way back from the pub last night. I better go check what other posts I've written. There's proof in the pudding - alcohol doesn't make you a better man but a beta man!

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    Default Re: Girl looking for advice.

    Lol no problem Man I got your back. As long as you didn't tell any newbies "Tell her you love her."
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    Default Re: Girl looking for advice.

    Ok I'll check that guy out. and thanks for the advice! so basically it's the same for men and women -- have a backbone. I know I have more to offer than sex. and yeah I'm alright looking..

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    Default Re: Girl looking for advice.

    Quote Originally Posted by allr3 View Post
    and yeah I'm alright looking..
    Why not post some pictures...

    A buddy and I once tried an experiment at a club. We went and talked to the ugliest girls we could find. They were awful to talk to and repelled us away. They gave us NO opportunity what so ever. They were doomed. Then we chatted up the best looking girls and they were suprisingly pleasant to talk to. They gave us only a TINY window of opportunity. You needed a bulls eye to get it. They are going to get the best men who can hit that bullseye. The girls in the middle group just gave up TOO MUCH opportunity 'Oh I'd love to go out (eyes fluttering)' and thats kind of a turn off because it seemed like they were just desperate for anyone with no challenge or reward. Play a little hard to get. Now looks obviously has helped shape those groups but attitude could also if you wanted.

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    Default Re: Girl looking for advice.

    no thanks haha. I look like a young lady who played a pregnant teen in a movie that came out in 2007, though.

    and that's funny. maybe they were not used to being approached


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