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    Default She keeps pulling back...or is she??? What do I do?

    Alright so I've been texting this girl for a little while that I met on OkCupid and things had been going great (getting along fine, she's cute, interesting and funny and thinks I am too, and I'm getting good vibes off of her) then when I started pushing a bit of sexual Tension I keep getting her pulling back...here's two examples:

    Saying goodnight I threw in a little something as she was getting tired...
    Me: I'm tired too so go get some sleep but try not to dream about me too much
    Her: I can't dream about you if I've never met you, silly. I don't even know if you're worth dreaming about

    Now I know she was kinda joking but I kinda felt that she was a bit put off by it...does the winky face mean she's just being sarcastic and joking around???

    Both of us laying in bed watching TV and texting each other I said something about loving being in an air conditioned room cause I could get really comfy under my blankets...
    Her: I love getting all cozy, I'm a cuddling champion
    Me: You may think so but I would totally out-cuddle you any day haha
    Her: Haha how would we compete in a cuddling competition?

    Ughhhh I just don't get it...is this her way of trying to tell me to back off? Or is she saying these things so that I come onto her more???

    If there are things I should have said or if you have any advice then please share it with me...

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    Default Re: She keeps pulling back...or is she??? What do I do?

    I think you're doing fine fellow PUA. She is definitely interested. What you are missing is rapport.

    If you are vibing, flirting, building comfort by getting to know each other then I strongly believe that you are missing rapport. This puts both of you on the same emotional plane.

    Rapport is simply "a sympathic relationship" so anything that can get her to feel the same as you feel. Like if you are upset, this will make her upset to and vice versa.

    There may be other elements you may be missing, but rapport is one that I think would be a great add-on to your relationship with her.

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    Default Re: She keeps pulling back...or is she??? What do I do?

    Alright I've been trying to build some rapport and some of it is working however I feel her shying away at other attempts...

    BUT! Just a few seconds ago we were talking about me showing her how to work with bonsai trees...

    Her: Can I try it [pruning a bonsai] sometime
    Me: Haha of course, whenever you want
    Her: During our cuddle competition :P

    So to me this says that she was just joking around because she brought it up again the day after I had the first back and forth about it...

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    Default Re: She keeps pulling back...or is she??? What do I do?

    That's good. She is openly flirting back. Just make sure to never have her completely validated otherwise you run the risk of not being a challenge anymore. Keep up the good work man.

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    Default Re: She keeps pulling back...or is she??? What do I do?

    I think she's a bit shy about her sexuality so I think that is going to be the major bump in the road. I know she definitely wants to hang out because she asked me to go to her town (a couple towns over) and go to the beach with her but I want to get her to know that I don't just want to be friends and hang out and that I want more than that out of this relationship...

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    Default Re: She keeps pulling back...or is she??? What do I do?

    You can make that message clear when you meet her with Kino Escalation and building sexual Tension. If she makes it out like its just friends, take it as plausible deniability. Keep pushing and change her mood, not her mind.

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    Default Re: She keeps pulling back...or is she??? What do I do?

    I apologize ahead of time for rambling on and the wall of text that is sure to follow lol...

    So basically what you're saying is that (so long as I don't royally screw things up) I'm in the green and all I have to do now is let things work out how they're gonna work out while building rapport and comfort and some sexual tension? Now I do have another question or two...

    First, how far do I let the Kino Escalation go? I'm in a great situation for it at the beach because I could start with something as simple as playfully splashing her and move on to say grabbing her leg from underwater and pulling her down (playfully of course otherwise it could come off as me being an immature jerk) and I could move from there. So, that in mind, sure I could probably pull off getting in her pants on day one BUT would it be smart to tone it down a bit and only make out with her (maybe some light touching/groping or whatever) but basically leaving sex as something for her to desire and to think about in the time between when we see eachother the first time and the second time. This would also let me text her during the time in between seeing eachother and get her all hot and bothered via text so that when she sees me next she'll just want to tear my clothes off. Also to me it seems that I would be more desirable if I kept it at making out because it wouldn't seem like all I wanted from her was sex. It actually seems like I would look better because I don't just have sex on the first date, then I know that I can have her but she'll think she has to work to get with me which in a way she will and it will give me dominance over the situation. If I'm wrong here then please let me know because after all I am here to learn

    Second, I'm testing this theory today but so far I've been the one that initiates the texting 99% of the time which really sucks but she says she loves talking with me and that I'm really interesting and whatnot but if I don't text her the conversations don't start which worries me because to me that says she's not thinking about me but obviously she is because a couple of times when I said I was busy or something and stopped texting her, she'd text me when she was going to sleep and tell me to have a good sleep and that she'd talk to me the next day but then it's like she won't text in the morning and I'm the one to have to initiate the conversation but once I text her she's all happy that I did...maybe she just feels like it's my job to start the conversation or is this some sort of test or something?
    Like yesterday when I texted her in the morning (around 10am) she texted right back so in order to test whether she'll text me first I kind of set her up to do so last night:

    Her: Hey just to let you know I'm getting a bit tired so if I don't answer it's just because I fell asleep lol
    Me: That's fine, I'm tired too anyways so why don't you get yourself some rest? You deserve it after all the work you do!
    she works 1 full time job, 1 part time job and goes to college full time :O...
    Her: You're right, it's getting late too so I don't want to be too tired tomorrow
    Me: Alright have a good sleep then shoot me a text tomorrow cause I'm gonna be at work and it goes by sooo much faster when I'm talking to you
    Her: Awww thanks you have a good sleep too, I'll talk to you tomorrow

    So now it's 11:45 and still nothing from her end...would it be a good idea for me to shoot her a text and, if she answers right back like she did yesterday, slightly neg her? I don't know what I should say to neg her though cause I don't want to come off as needy like if I was to say "You were supposed to text me this morning why didn't you???" or "It's 11:45 how come you haven't texted me yet?". Those both seem like WICKED needy texts and I don't want to say anything like that so should I say something like "Is it just me or does it seem like I'm always texting you first? Jeez you must really not like me if you never want to text me haha jk "

    By the way thanks again for all your help BatMan

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    Default Re: She keeps pulling back...or is she??? What do I do?

    For the questions about the text, if you assume she doesn't like you it will convey low confidence. Always assume attraction. I know text game has a certain rhythm that you should follow, but ultimately it's meant to get you to the meet up. It's good for comfort building, but in person is 10x better. So work on getting the meetup.

    You have the right idea about playful Kino. You want to slowly build it up with covert then overt kino (shoulders, arms, hands). Then move on to the next sensitive body part (waist, neck) with covert then make it overt. Everyone knows to initiate kino to get her comfortable, but you also have to understand you have to be the one to END it as well. If you move in for a kiss, you have to push her away like it was her idea. Pull her towards you then lightly push her away with a grin. Always end the kino first. Have you ever rubbed your arm for a min then stopped.....it feels strange, almost like a phantom hand is still there. If you do this to her, she will feel STRANGE that you stopped touching her and she will most likely re-initiate kino. I do this a lot when I am at a night club dancing with women.

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    Default Re: She keeps pulling back...or is she??? What do I do?

    Luckily the meet up is already a sealed deal...it's either tomorrow, thursday or over the weekend depending on our schedules...But I'm glad I have the right idea about the Kino Escalation, I'm just curious as to where I should stop it...Like I asked earlier will just keeping it at making out with slight touching/groping on the first date catch her interest more than rounding the bases on the first date?

    Oh and thanks for the tip about touching and stopping to try and get her to initiate some Kino basically testing her to see if she wants me to continue escalating.

    I'm sure I'll be fine once I meet her in person I just get anxiety over stupid little things that always seem to work themselves out anyways lol...

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    Default Re: She keeps pulling back...or is she??? What do I do?

    I guess part of the Kino would be to tell if she wants to keep going. What it's really meant to do though is build Tension. If you build enough sexual tension she WILL NOT want you to stop which is the point. You have to get her thinking about sex with you. Could you imagine if you went up and hugged her so close that both of your below parts were rubbing, then imagine that YOU were the one that pushed her away. All of a sudden she gets cold down there and now you created that desire for her to be warm again. This is EXACTLY what women do to men. They do it because they know they can have sex pretty much whenever and with whoever they want. Imagine if you had the same Mindset as a woman....wouldn't you enjoy having fun getting someone thinking about sex with you KNOWING that you can have it whenever you want. It's playful, it's fun, it's tension. Soak in the tension and make it your friend.


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