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Thread: Avoid text vortex or text limbo

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    Default Avoid text vortex or text limbo

    I keep seeing guys spend so much time texting via phone or online. These are only mediums of connection (not communication, technically it is but in our situation it isnt). In other words, they are tools used to connect the dots. Once you connect the dot with your target then you meetup as soon as possible.

    To tell you the truth if I text it goes like this:

    Me: Funny / unique opener
    Target: Reponse
    Me: Comment
    Target: Response + Comment
    Me: Response + Comment
    Target: Response ( or Response + Comment )
    Me: Prepare for Exit + Set meet up time and place
    Target: Response
    Me: Exit

    If there is a lag between her response to your comment. Prepare for exit after making one last comment after the lag response.

    Me: Funny / unique opener ---- 3:20pm
    Target: Reponse ---- 3:30pm
    Me: Comment ---- 3:35pm
    Target: Response ---- 3:50pm
    Me: Prepare for Exit + Set meet up time and place ---- 4:00pm
    Target: Response ---- 4:10pm
    Me: Exit ---- 4:20pm

    I follow the same pattern after Date 1 and the frequency in texting is limited and only used to connect the dot for meeting up. After k-closing or f-closing you can increase a little but not pass 33%.
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    Default Re: Avoid text vortex or text limbo

    increase to pass 33% of what? (plus 30 chars)
    If it frightens you, Do It!

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    Default Re: Avoid text vortex or text limbo

    do not increase frequency in text pass 33%. Show that you are busy and you are interacting with others. That shows her that her value is low and she needs to work to build interest. That is good because when she interacts with you its refreshing and her interest is peaked.

    Quote Originally Posted by dgmortal View Post
    increase to pass 33% of what? (plus 30 chars)
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    Default Re: Avoid text vortex or text limbo

    Topgun

    Does this not goes a little against what u said in the ultimate text guide?

    U said to first built rapport say things like"hey there ;p"

    out here u use a finny/unique opener...

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    Default Re: Avoid text vortex or text limbo

    Quote Originally Posted by samwise1984 View Post
    Topgun

    Does this not goes a little against what u said in the ultimate text guide?

    U said to first built rapport say things like"hey there ;p"

    out here u use a finny/unique opener...
    I think you confused him with "gunsnglory"...

    Anyway, I'll throw in a couple thoughts on texting while I'm here.

    I agree that you definitely don't want to get stuck being a girl's "texting buddy", if she's someone you actually want to pursue on a more serious level. (Whether it be a hook-up, or a LTR)

    I DO however, recommend having a couple girls in your social circle for that very purpose, just so you can practice & gain experience.

    Texting is great for staying in contact between dates, or for making plans. It CAN also be used for flirting/building attraction AND escalating to a sexual level.

    You don't want to start building rapport as the first step. Establish attraction first!! (Otherwise you risk being thought of as a "friend"... and that's not the zone you want to be in.

    Personally I NEVER send texts that just say-
    "Hey what's up?" /"What's happening" / "Hey there" / "What ya doin? / "How are you?" etc...

    Reason being; That's what just about every other guy is going to text her; And you don't want her to to lump you into the same group as "every other guy".

    Be cute, silly, playful & creative. You want to stand out & make sure she remembers you AND your texts.

    The initial opening text should at least make her smile. (Or better yet LAUGH!) That way she's feeling positive & she'll be interested. Then you can quickly get to the reason you're texting her: "Getting together".

    A few examples (including a couple new ones I've recently used) would be:

    "What's kickin, baby chicken? I was just thinking about ya. "

    "What's goin on, little swan? You're not in jail are you? "

    "I just saw a grey-haired woman with a "whale tale" thong.. made me think of you. "

    "OK, so there was either a Grizzly Bear in my mirror this morning, or I just really look like HELL when I wake up! hope you had better luck than I did."

    So, compare those to the standard "what's up?" style texts.... Which ones get your attention & make you smile or laugh?

    And which ones do you think are going to get her to reply back in a fun, playful way; which will increase your chances of getting a "YES" (instead of "maybe", or "I'm not sure", or "I'm busy") when you ask her out?

    By tickling her funny-bone right from the start, you can eliminate the need for boring, Fluff talk & having to warm her up, or looking for a transition to ask her out.

    Thus, you can easily shoot a few texts back & forth in a couple minutes & get the job done. - "Mission Accomplished"

    You don't have to wait for any length of time to go by & risk losing her attention. When you shoot that first playful text, it sets the mood for "Rapid Fire Reply" .

    THAT'S how you can avoid the "Texting Vortex / Limbo" that our friend topgunningit is talking about in the original/first post.

    Too many guys wait waaaaaaaaaaay too long to respond.
    They think you have to "match her time & add 20 minutes" (or whatever).
    That's Bullsh1t.
    That's a pattern!... patterns are predictable... predictability is boring.... boring is no good!!!

    Those are the factors that cause most guys to fall into that limbo stage... or worse yet, completely ignored after a while.

    I'll WILL admit that I actually text girls 500x more than I call them. But it fits my style & personality, so it works for me.
    And when I DO happen to call a girl, I use the same approach & formula that I do with texting.

    Anyway, let's recap:
    It's pretty simple....

    FUN + UNpredictable = Best results!


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    Default Re: Avoid text vortex or text limbo

    Hey tmalonetn,

    Ah shit! Yeah, confused em both.

    Thank for clarifying. Really appreciate it.

    Two questions please..

    1) Be cute, silly, playful & creative. You want to stand out & make sure she remembers you AND your texts.
    Sometimes I simply do not feel funny or cant really think of anything funny o creative...this happens to me 50% of the time actually.....I wonder if this happens to you too.

    2) Too many guys wait waaaaaaaaaaay too long to respond.
    They think you have to "match her time & add 20 minutes" (or whatever).
    That's Bullsh1t.
    That's a pattern!... patterns are predictable... predictability is boring.... boring is no good!!!

    Just to clarify, you mean, send a message, sometimes fast, sometimes not. yes? Be unpredictable with timings yes? what of she takes 3 days to respond? do i respond in a few hours?

    Thanks.

    I send alot of texts too. I'm trying to improve my text game. really. I've improved quite a bit. I started this whole pua thing since feb I believe...FUCK! its really hard ya know. i still have not figured out the system yet..its soo chaotic, so much to learn...

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    Default Re: Avoid text vortex or text limbo

    yeah... when I said "unpredictable", my focus was about response time when you reply back. It's ok to fire a text right back at her seconds after you get it. (That actually helps build rapport WHILE you're building attraction... which makes "Rapid Escalation" possible)


    Also- It just takes practice coming up with silly, fun, playful stuff. Most of my ideas are "mix & match" from previous texts I've sent.

    OR... I'll just take a normal subject & put a little humorous twist on it. But the more you do it, the easier it gets. Just like anything.


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    Default Re: Avoid text vortex or text limbo

    I'm starting to realize that texting is quickly becoming a very controversial topic in PUA Forums. It seems everyone has a different opinion. Long txts vs shorter ones... fun txts vs direct date requests... building attraction vs simple tool to set up dates... and the list goes on.

    I think its like many other PUA techniques ... PRACTICE! Do what works, learn what feels congruent with your personality. If your technique gets stale, switch it up.

    Everyone can each post a differrent technique and they would be right to a certain degree(obvious AFC behavior excluded).

    Also, more than any other technique, texting is very situatonal and depends on the girl. I use texting to get this girl but it took awhile. Her logistics and mine were way off. Txting allowed me to keep the fire burning until we worked out our logistic problem. Talking on the phone was hit or miss because of our schedules. So texting helped me in a way nothing else could. And i will add that gunsglory suggestions helped immensely.

    I like your guide topgun and appreciate u posting it. Thx
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    Default Re: Avoid text vortex or text limbo

    Quote Originally Posted by LockDown View Post
    I'm starting to realize that texting is quickly becoming a very controversial topic in PUA Forums. It seems everyone has a different opinion. Long txts vs shorter ones... fun txts vs direct date requests... building attraction vs simple tool to set up dates... and the list goes on.

    I think its like many other PUA techniques ... PRACTICE! Do what works, learn what feels congruent with your personality. If your technique gets stale, switch it up.

    Everyone can each post a differrent technique and they would be right to a certain degree(obvious AFC behavior excluded).

    Also, more than any other technique, texting is very situatonal and depends on the girl. I use texting to get this girl but it took awhile. Her logistics and mine were way off. Txting allowed me to keep the fire burning until we worked out our logistic problem. Talking on the phone was hit or miss because of our schedules. So texting helped me in a way nothing else could. And i will add that gunsglory suggestions helped immensely.

    I like your guide topgun and appreciate u posting it. Thx
    I totally agree!
    You have to find out what fits your own personality & style, and go with that.

    Do you use canned material, or original?
    Do you text or call?
    Cocky humor or not cocky? etc....

    For me, it's 99% original.... just because it feels more natural & comes across a truly being genuine. And when that happens, everything just clicks & there's minimal (if any) lag/limbo time.

    It DEFINITELY also depends on the girl. (Some of them actually don't particularly like talking on the phone...)

    As long as your texts are congruent with your personality, your success rate will be much greater.

    I can't do a lot of cocky humor, because it doesn't fit me, (but other guys might be able to be over the top with it & have it work like magic.)

    Just never be dull & forgettable.


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    Default Re: Avoid text vortex or text limbo

    After conversing with tmalonetn and gained his advise a 2 months ago I have hooked a lot of girls. I have girls when we meet in person talked about how I text and how awesome it was texting me. First time that anyone has said that to me. So I took tmalonetn advise and refined my texting and make myself intriguing, unpredictable, funny and unique. When I have established that I remove myself so my value is kept high and her addiction is kept intact. So when we meet its nothing but smiles. Like these girls wanted to fark my brains out. They told me they never met a guy who texted like I did, and they told me if I texted something boring they wouldnt have responded. I learnt my lesson.


    Thanks tmalonetn
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