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    Cpt. Spaulding is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default Almost in friend zone with waitress

    Ok heres the deal... First off, all this went down before I read MM, I just read the book, and started clicking around these forums, not finding anything specific to my situation. I'm about halfway through MM, so Now that I have nothing but MM in my head, i don't wanna fark up the next move, but I also don't want to have to much of a vicious time-gap and loose a shot.

    I'm 34, she is 22. She knew it was my b-day the other day and didn't ask how old I was. Could this mean age isn't an issue? or that she don't care because intentions aren't to hook up anyway?

    I've been going to this diner with my Pop for the last few weeks. This waitress who pretty much always waits on us, I always had my eyes on. The other day we start talking and it turns out she is from my area (45 mins away from Diner) and we also attend aa meetings in our area. When I said take my number and maybe we'll hit meetings together, she whipped her phone out and told me to add my number in her phone and that she will text me later so I have her number. I left.

    She then texted me right when she was driving home from work that day (about 5 hours later) we had a friendly conversation back and forth that day. The next day she texted me and asked what I thought about the fact of meeting the way we did, and how bizarre it was. I replied; "Bizzare in a very good way" She then replies "yeahhh it is, i don't believe in coincidences"

    A couple friendly "what are you doin" type messages the next day, that was it. I went a whole day (yesterday) without a text to or from her. Now, today, I'm trying to make a move and ask her out tonight. I feel like if i don't I'm in friendship zone, which I don't feel im in at this point yet, right?

    My question is this, do I keep it in text game, do I call? I would like to keep it in text game, because that's where its been, and texts are really a good tool.
    If so, whats the next move?

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    Default Re: Almost in friend zone with waitress

    Hey Bro,
    You are in a better position than what you think but first things first. About your birthday and not asking how old you were could have been something she may have thought was too personal to ask since she really did not know you that well because some people are very sensitive about telling their age, and I wouldnít take it as a sign of disinterest. As for asking her out I would definitely ask her but do it in a way that she sees you as an alpha male. It should go something like this:
    You: "Suzy, Iím going to see XYZ movie, at 8:00 tonight. Do you
    want to go with?"
    Her: .Oh yes! I was hoping you would call. I thought you forgot
    about me!
    I have used this approach many times without fail and it gives her the impression that you know what you want, youíre going after it (the movie), you have a busy schedule, and you are going to have an awesome time with or without her.

    But you adapt it to whatever venue you want to ask her to, but I would think of something simple, easy and inexpensive to take her because you donít want to come off as desperate or needy by asking her to dinner and all, and which also may trigger her thinking that you are getting to serious to fast, and that will scare her off or put you in the friendzone. Keep developing your alpha skills!

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    Default Re: Almost in friend zone with waitress

    Thanks man...
    I have an update... Last night I texted her with a line I found on here

    ME: farkin cold out, do you think the weather is nice in Honolulu?

    Her: Ya, it's beautiful out there prolly, wats upp im on my way to work hows your weekend so far

    Me: (30mins later) Aight well you drive I got gas and tolls
    (purposley didn't answer her question on how my day was. (1 text 1 response)

    Her: Wait to Hawaii u want mew to drive lol im at work it was mad busy are you going to a meeting tomorrow

    Me: (1 Hour later) I have something to do untill about 7 tomorrow after that I'm picking you up and we're goin to a movie

    Her: Wait Who

    Me: What'ya mean who

    Her: Go to movie wit who me

    HER: iM CONFUSED IM SHOT OUT LOL

    Me: Thats besides the point.(neg) So I'll pick you up at 7 or 8

    Her: Maybe we can but I really need to make a meeting and i work from 8 to 4 so i can only make one after my house meeting

    Me: (1hr later 1am) "K"
    Insinuating I'm busy, cant really text, and it aint no big deal, also leaving the discussion open.

    I totally ignored discussing going to a meeting, instead went straight for the neck by telling her what we are doing (movies) ALPHA status. I went hard on the movie thing because it's time to get a commitment / make a move already, I'm done wasting time with these bishes, i wanna know what the real deal is...

    I'm wondering if her "MAYBE" and then the meeting excuse is her way out, or if she really wants to go to the movies and is telling the truth. I think I really caught her off gaurd, cause I totally switched games on her...

    So, I'm thinking do I sit back and wait to see if she hits me up to to either confirm or just small talk? Or do I text her to confirm, or text and not even mention the movie unless she does?

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    Default Re: Almost in friend zone with waitress

    I think you were being a little too aggressive in you asking (telling) her to the movies, and she became a little nervous so that is why the delay in giving you a firm yes or no which also showed your desperation, and neediness. Just like being too timid when asking a girl out shows neediness so can aggressiveness. Youíre going to have to repair the damage from your text so you can avoid the friendzone so here is what I would do. I would go to the meeting, and talk to her and pretend I was just kidding about the Hawaii thing, and then ask her to the movies but in a more low key manner and not too pushy but still being alpha. Some pickup lines on the pua site are good in certain situations, and you have to adapt them to your style because the main point you want to get across is that you are going with or without her, and will have an awesome time. Good luck man!

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    Default Re: Almost in friend zone with waitress

    Men, we need to value our time more then we value women. This isn't to say women are not valuable. But who are we to believe in something so illogical, as men we should realize that without our time(life), we would not even be able to pursue women, but only our mother who gave us life. Why do we think we should prioritize them over our time(life) unless she is the one who gives me/my children life. Man is Sovereignty.

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    Default Re: Almost in friend zone with waitress

    Instead of being overly aggressive by telling her you're going to the movies, saying "Well on our way to Hawaii tomorrow, we can take a pit stop at the movies."

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    Default Re: Almost in friend zone with waitress

    Forget the movies completely. Go for a 'quick' casual meal and talk. You just met this girl and have all this 'coincidence' fate happening and you want to sit in a theatre together like teenagers?

    As a rule of thumb never give your numbver away to girls - ALWAYS get their number. It shows confidence from the get go. Dont be afraid to call her but try do it as a follow on from a text. Like if she's texting back and forth and you know she's not busy say 'Are you free to talk in person?'. Good luck. Dont try too hard, just be natural and have some other girls in the pipeline.


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