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    Default Girl flakes, makes a counter offer

    Called her on Tuesday and set up a date on Friday. She accepted. We've been seeing each other three months irregularly followed with a one month break in between. She had some valid life stuff during that time like moving out of ex-bf and other heavy stuff. After that during last two weeks I've seen her three times and spent a night on a last date.

    Now she sends a message saying sorry but would Thursday or Saturday be good instead. She "has" to go to a local club on Friday. I'm 90% certain she's going with her friend to see a certain performance. Whatever, we're not exclusive.

    What's the take on this. She flakes but counter offers. I do have plans on both days until like 8-9pm or so. Should I pull back here? Obviously she is putting her friend before me. My first instinct was just to reply in the morning that sorry, but I've got other plans.

    I've read a lot here about flaking but didn't really find anything with a counter offer. Should I let this slide and contact her at the beginning of the week or just make her to chase me?

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    Default Re: Girl flakes, makes a counter offer

    You could handle this a couple ways.

    #1. Tell her "Thursday is no good, but I'm all for Sat. (Or Vice-Versa) However; my time IS valuable & important, so please respect that if you agree to meet up.

    #2. Tell her, both days are no good because you already have stuff going on for those days, so you'll give her a shout some other time.

    You're NOT being a d1ck by politely / respectfully letting her know that you have a life too, & asking for common courtesy.

    This demonstrates that you're not a pushover & implies the Alpha Male mentality, which girls DO admire.

    Remember: occasionally you DO need to put a girl in her place, if she's out of line.

    Just do it with respect & it's all good.


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    Default Re: Girl flakes, makes a counter offer

    Nice response, thanks.

    Would rather go with #2 or combine both, but doesn't saying "I'll give you a shout later" kind of reward her for this?

    I get the feeling that it would make her too comfortable as I would reveal that I'll contact her later.

    By no means I'm going to get angry or disturbed by this. It's at least a partial Sh1t Test in my opinion. I was thinking more of a "Unfortunately neither day is good for me, but enjoy!"

    2nd, any opinion if I should answer her(it's 11pm now) today or just to be prick make her sweat it until the morning. It wouldn't hurt to let her wait a bit anyway. All she knows I could be banging other girls and not be next to my phone.

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    Default Re: Girl flakes, makes a counter offer

    Actually no... it's not rewarding her at all.
    By telling her you'll give her a shout "some other time" she's getting an indefinite answer.

    That could mean next week, next months, several months from now... etc.

    And women interpret words differently than men do most of the time. So the message will be pretty clear, but still in a respectful manner.

    It doesn't matter WHEN you reply back.... but rather, what you reply WITH.


    And since you're not catering to her or playing her game, it puts you back in the Alpha / Control position.

    Which is: you'll get ahold of her when you're able to... but until then, you've got other things (& or people) to do!


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    Default Re: Girl flakes, makes a counter offer

    Good stuff, gonna follow this road. Thanks man!

    And congrats


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