Pretty decent guide Vecen, thanks for this man.
Pretty decent guide Vecen, thanks for this man.
Just so I am understanding, your saying to ask for her number in the same first message you send to her?
Great tips and informative. Been messing around with facebook game myself lately. What do you guys think about using Shock & Awe statements that leave a lasting impression on the girl?
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Be careful with that, you may come off as a try hard
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you can sometimes come across with very pretty girls although they don't prefer or afraid to put their photos in public on the dating site,so it is better to look at their height and weight ratio at the profile and try your chance by calling them to a more private platform like msn or skype, where you can see their photos
I too am a bit confused about the asking for the number in the first msg. I feel like most girls would think its moving to fast, or something, maybe get scared off?
Total newb here btw
Vecen please correct me at any moment if I am straying off what your saying here.
Sawyer it is entirely situational. He is saying generally go for the Number Close in the first message yes. However he also mentioned a data gathering phase first. In this phase you can determine a lot about your target in a general sense and thus determine whether or not to try and number close in the initial contact. That is why the data gathering phase is important because as you are briefly combing through her pictures for instance you can determine very general things about her, is she introverted or extroverted, is she insecure about her physical appearance, does she have a big ego or is she vain. You can also determine a lot of time what sort of music she might be into from her photo comments (relating mostly to Facebook as that is where my E-Game takes place). A lot of those comments you see on women's photos that seem all whitty and oh so very genius are lyrics from songs.
To make a broad speculation of a womans personality through her photos requires an understanding of body language. If you dont know body language or the basics of how to read it it is worth taking a little extra time to study. There is a number of free resources available online that are great. I have included a good link that introduces you to the basics at the bottom of the paragraph. Anyhow, having a good understanding of body language and being able to speculate ones personality based on her photos is a huge advantage because you can determine how to open her. Here is a real life example.
Surfing FB I stumble across a girl 18 yo who attends school with my little brother. My brother was telling me about said female earlier that day and explained to me she is the hottest girl in school. He is 15 I am well out of school to say the least however I being his older brother have taken him under my wing becoming his mentor. He is having difficulty grasping certain concepts of Game so I decided I would demonstrate online as it is difficult to do in person given the age gap. I stumbled on this girls FB did a little snooping around and saw a lot of photos with friends out and about as well as a lot of self portraits. Did a little research on self portrait quotes and discovered 80% or so were lines from country songs. With the combination of her choice in lyrics and her self portraits it was easy to deduce she knows shes bad and isnt afraid to let the world know it either. If there is one challenge I like the most is an egoistical snob. Contrary to Vecen's advice of don't neg in rare extreme cases you can. This is how it went down.
Me: Your ego makes you look small. I guess thats expected from the hottest girl in school as I have been told. You should meet me down at the chatahoochie (from a country song) for a bite to eat and to see what your hiding behind all that Instagram editing. Ill call you in a bit to set up a meeting time
Not 30 seconds later.
HB: Sinister.. thats kind of mysterious... idk where the chatahoochie is nor do I know who you are but i know your brother and your definitely older than what i would go for. Not something I usually do meeting up with people i don't know but i like your style. but heres my number [phone number].
This is a rare case where it is ok to neg a girl or in this case be down right blunt and have it work out in your favor but I wouldn't know this was possible with out gathering data.
Long story short is do the research. It helps a lot.
I ended up not meeting up with her for the record because though hot she was, she is in school still and it was a simple example to show my kid brother a simple pick up. Please oh please though they are easy targets, unless your in school yourself dont go sit in the back parking lot and practice your game haha. I had a student of mine do this once haha. It ends bad
Last edited by KristiBell; 02-01-2013 at 05:16 AM.
Ok i have my profile setup, i'll give the brief run down and hopefully you guys can help me improve it.. : self summary:"i run a drug traficking operation, rob banks and hi-jack trucks and i also run a carpentry business with my best mate ;-) I am a boxer (the best boxer ever.) Prefer being around people that dont get fussed over little things. If i dont know it ill secretly google it and act like i knew it. Cant beat a good roadtrip. What im doing with my life: "trying to make my millions by illegal activities, and i also have a business, but if both fail im certain i can win x-factor!" Im really good at: "im a fucking champion at eye-spy" The first thing people notice about me: " the first thing most people botice about me is; im irish!" Favourite books movies etc: "ill watch/listen/read anything that isnt muck, like for example slipknot is not music its utter rubbish, snow patrol is good music. Disaster movie is just the 48th copy of scary movie and its shit, but the fighter, now thats a movie!!" The 6 things i could never do without: "tea, tim-tams, fajitas, heroin, sex, sleep" I spend alot of my time thinking about: "how i will spend my millions when i make my millions" On a typical friday night i am: "In a horizontal relaxational position going: ...zzzz.....zzzzzz.. ..zzzzz..zz...." The most private thing im willing to admit: "I got drunk with bono one night and we got in a fight..he got 2nd place." You should message me if: "You enjoy walks in the park, political debate, soft classical music and poetry readings... i joke, i joke message me and lets see how we go from there good lookin ;-)" ......ok thats my profile please tell me where im going wrong!??
It sounds like you're trying too hard to be funny, rather than being genuinely interesting.
You don't want to tell everything about yourself in your profile, but you DO want to give the girls SOME insight as to who you really are.
Your profile needs to be engaging so that it hooks them.
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