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Thread: WTF is wrong with my closers? Help me!

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    Default WTF is wrong with my closers? Help me!

    I was talking to a girl the other day, was going good and she wanted to meet up. I suggested a hotel to meet at, and no response.

    Today, I initiated a conversation with another potential- we had a good conversation, and I couldnt Number Close. Here was the convo:

    ME: I noticed you're trying to get into med-school. How do you expect to accomplish that in between all of your World of Warcraft raids? I am pre-med as well and I do love good tv shows and occasionally video games. Maybe we'll get along.

    HER: In your first pic, it kinda looks like you'd be a good cast member in Magic Mike. ^^ Hi, I'm Ilena.

    ME: lol It was a Halloween party and I thought it'd make a good profile pic... I mean, what girl can't resist a butler? What year are you into your pre-med program? Taken any chemistrys yet?

    BTW Im Johnny if you havent already guessed from my screen name

    HER: Too true, I'm a first year, and just Biology so far. Got any plans for Halloween?

    ME: Before we continue this conversation, I would love to know what you are doing on a toilet in your profile picture?

    HER: Oh you know, just being me.

    ME: At least you didn't feebly attempt to edit your ex outta the picture like mine :P My Halloween was basically tonight. Went to a big party called "Moonfest" in West Palm Beach... a lot of half naked women walking around with guys trying to impress them (not my scene). How about you?

    HER: Certainly not my scene either. And I'm not sure, I think I'll go as Black Cat from Spiderman for Halloween. She's not half naked, she just has a skin tight costume which is uncomfortable to be in and slightly hard to breath in. But it's worth it.
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    ME: Black Cat huh? She was supposed to make it into Spiderman 4, but then it got cancelled What kinds of games do you play?

    HER: She's essentially just the super hero version of Cat Woman anyways. But I play mainly MMORPG's, such as WoW like a true loser.

    ME: So my first message wasn't too far from the truth, now was it? lol Do you like Lord of the rings by any chance? Im assuming yes since you like fantasy.

    HER: Oh yes, I love the books, movies and to a certain extent, the games. What about you?

    ME: They're my favorite movie trilogy of all time. I've only read parts of the books- didn't read much as a teenager, and now I have no time because of school. But, I am immensely looking forward to the Hobbit movie.... Puts a tear in my eye even watching the trailer.

    HER: It's coming out soon, I honestly can't wait. ^^ Too bad Smaug won't be in the first part.
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    ME: You weren't joking, you ARE a nerd! Thats not a bad thing. Smaug will be in the second movie I'm sure. I need to go to bed; I've got a long day of studying ahead of me. I'd like to continue this conversation though. Why don't I text you later on this week?

    ME: That was me asking for your number in case you misunderstood



    In case you are wondering, she was a super-hot gaming girl.... Anyways, she didnt respond, and Im getting irritated. Im doing fine with my openers and flowing the conversations, even with other girls, but closing is foreign to me online. Can I get some constructive (or not ) criticism please?

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    Default Re: WTF is wrong with my closers? Help me!

    look man, if you going to close off of an online profile never ask a girl to meet you at a hotel, that implies you want to have sex with her the day you meet her in reel life, instead you need to ask her to dinner, or to some other "non-threatening venue" most girls who are online are there because they want a serious relationship thats not just about sex

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    Default Re: WTF is wrong with my closers? Help me!

    Ok, that is what I suspected. I made it completely clear that all I was looking for was some fun. But I guess you just need to make girls feel like they aren't just hookers.
    However, I was definitely not willing to drive two hours away unless I knew FOR A FACT that I was getting some, so it's not a big deal.

    Where did I go wrong with this pursuit though? All I said was maybe I'll text you this week and asked for her number. She was young however- only 18.

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    Exclamation Re: WTF is wrong with my closers? Help me!

    "Where did I go wrong with this pursuit though? All I said was maybe I'll text you this week and asked for her number. She was young however- only 18."

    Sounds like her ASD(anti slut defense) was still very active, and you powered thru without making her feel OK.

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    Default Re: WTF is wrong with my closers? Help me!

    you definately didn't build enough comfort to close, generally it takes between 7 and 10 hours spent with the girl in order to close, even though it is posible to do it in far less time, usually it will take at least 2 or 3 dates/meetups. no matter how direct you are with a girl she still doesn't want to feel used, comfort building is what we do to get rid of ASD

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    Default Re: WTF is wrong with my closers? Help me!

    I've never done online dating but knowing girls, I'd say she didb't give you her # because it was the first time you talked. Try having one or two more good convos with her the n-close.
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    Cool Re: WTF is wrong with my closers? Help me!

    I do a lot of on-line dating... It can be frustrating but YOU have to have patience for success...

    The only reason I would ask or give my number in the first meeting is if I don't really care about the outcome and I want quick results.

    You appear too eager. You are already in contact via internet,so if you end with I have to study I look forward to our next conversation, she will be looking forward to coming back to the internet to find you because of the things you had in common and the first convo went well...

    You could even set up a time to chat or you can leave her a message. I usually give a day or so when women like something they want more of it so I feed them in spurts.


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