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Thread: Need help overcoming Sh*t test, first time

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    Exclamation Need help overcoming Sh*t test, first time

    Hey guys, this is my first post so lets make it a good one. I have been talking to this HB8 on Match for a few days. she is interested in going on a date but I ran into a Sh1t Test that I could use your help with. All my interactions are listed below. feel free to criticise/ give me some tips

    Me: BOO happy Halloween :P

    Her: You're a day early! Lol Happy Halloween eve!

    Me: I mean if you want to get technical, then fine lol. I'm just trying to get you excited for halloween

    Her: Oh I got technical lol. doing anything for Halloween?

    Me: Actually I'm not sure what I'm doing for Halloween, depends on how many of my friends and co-workers go out. What are you doing for Halloween?

    Her: Well what are you going to be? And I don't know if I'm doing anything yet lol

    Me: I have 2 costumes actually. The first one I am a S.W.A.T. team member, the other is where I dress up as Rick from the walking dead. I wore that out Saturday and people thought I was the guy from Brokeback Mountain...

    I bet you had better success than I did with your costume. What were you?
    P.s. its Halloween. You should do something and live a little

    Her: Not sure that's the best thing to be mistaken for... just saying.. lol
    I don't even have a costume... isn't that sad? lol I can't remember the last time I had a costume.
    Maybe I'll watch a scary movie or something... I know... I'm wild lol

    Me: thanks for the tip, I will try not to be mistaken for a gay cowboy anymore lol.
    no costume? what happened, are you like the Grinch that stole Halloween
    I can’t say anything about not going out because I will be in tonight too. most likely watching American horror story tonight

    Her: I mean I guess there could be worse things to be mistaken for... but a gay cowboy has got to be close to the top. Well you know I thought about dressing up for myself... but then I didn't think staying home dressed in a costume would be very comfortable lol. I'm going to watch hocus pocus... gotta stick to something that won't freak me out since I'll be watching it alone ha

    Me: hocus pocus? I remember that, you sure you won’t get scared watching that alone? I dont know you sound like an easy scare
    make sure to watch it with the lights on

    Her: Like watching it with the lights off is an option? lol Don't judge me lol. how's your movie/show or whatever it is?
    Me: Hey, you have been judging me for a while now, let me have my moment
    My show starts at 11 so I will have to let you know later. I mean if you get too scared I'll still be up to tell you there is no boogey monster so your ok.

    Her: Me judge? Never. That's ridiculous.
    Its not the boogey monster I'm worried about lol

    Me: Your right, you don't judge your just an angel I'm sure lol.
    If its not the boogey monster than what are you afraid of? The dark? Children's horror films?

    Her: Of course I'm angel.. I'm not sure why there was a hint of sarcasm in that statement lol
    Oh it's not the children horror films... its the adult horror films... hint why the children ones are on
    See I got it all planned out! Lol

    Me: Me? sarcastic? watch your accusations there "angel"
    the adult horror films are the fun ones! If you havent seen a good one than you haven't lived, but you might have to sleep with the lights on for like...a week.
    I dont think you have a good plan

    Her: This angel has just picked up a theme... that is all
    Oh I've watched real horror films... I just choose to not watch them alone and especially at night alone lol
    My plan worked like a charm... got to watch a Halloween movie AND didn't get freaked out = awesome plan

    Me: I think this "angel" has a little devil on her shoulder. Maybe you can be a big girl and go see a real scary movie in theaters with me. Personally I think you might get too freaked out and embarrass me, you think you can handle that?

    Her: Psh I can handle that... but I'll warn you I like to watch my scary movies through my fingers lol

    Me: haha ok then prepare yourself...because we are going to paranormal activity 4! Hows this Saturday work?
    oh and I'm gonna make you watch it even if I have to hold down your fingers. that won’t fly with me lol

    Her: I've seen all the other paranormal activity movies. I can def handle this
    But I can't Saturday... I have the georgia game that afternoon and then I'm hanging out with a friend afterwards. Still watching it through my fingers...

    Me: talking a big game now, hope you can back it up! how about Sunday, if that still doesnt work then this obviously just wasn't meant to be
    I will still be there to hold you hands down, your not getting away with that when I'm there

    Her: Maybe sunday... I'm supposed to spend the day with my family
    But I'd like to see the movie with you at some point

    Me: haha ok maybe Sunday, maybe neek week...or maybe that devil on your should likes sending me on a wild goose chase to avoid getting scared
    til then "maybe" we should exchange numbers.

    Her: Thought you liked wild goose chases.. whoops
    Maybe we should... maybe we shouldn't
    Isn't this fun lol
    ****What should I do****

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    Default Re: Need help overcoming Sh*t test, first time

    You started out really heavy with too much Fluff-talk... but you pulled it together really well. *kudos!

    She's got a great playful sense of humor... so roll with it.

    I'd say something like:
    Ya know, I actually agree... this IS pretty stinkin' fun! "But there IS one more extremely important question I have to ask before I can accept your digits..."

    Obvioulsy,. this is a set up on your part... and she'll reply back with something along the lines of "What's the extremely important question?

    Your reponse:
    "Well, that question is: What's your number? "

    I've used that soooo many times... & it's been THE MOST effective & reliable Number Close out of all of them I've ever tried.


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    Default Re: Need help overcoming Sh*t test, first time

    damn that's a good line, wish I used it. unfortunately I already sent her a reply.

    Me: hmm your trying to play a game within a game arent you? thats some inception stuff right there.

    but maybe we shoudnt

    dont know if you can deal with anymore fun

    - I like what I said but I would have used yours. anyways keep it coming with tips on how to deal with her. much appreciated guys

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    Default Re: Need help overcoming Sh*t test, first time

    Not really seeing where her Sh1t Test is? She is interested but try move the conversation forward a bit. You appear to be consistently allowing yourself to stay in her frame or the halloween frame or the 'can you handle it frame'. It actually reveals your weakness and not hers. It's a little repetitive and reactionary. I would avoid showing concern about being led on a wild goose chase or that you really know her well yet, even if jokingly. Just relax and start to be more imaginative about you two together intimately. E.g. when discussing halloween costumes you could have started saying things that put you together as a couple 'we could be like that couple from the munsters - a white streak through your long hair would be sexy'. Cos play is sexy so if you discuss costumes bring sexual Tension into it.

    'Id like to see the movie with you at some point'. I would steer that around to her wanting to see YOU at some point. Say 'Well let's go out for a quick coffee midweek to meet each other in person'. It is less of a commitment than sitting through a long movie. I would actually ditch the movie idea as a first date and concentrate on meeting her for a casual coffee, drink or bite to eat. Conversation and connection. Your main goal is to meet her and see if she is ok in real life beyond match.com. Movie is better as a second date when you have a guarantee she's ok - she is who she says she is, or better still invite her to your place to watch a dvd hugged up on the couch. If you continue conversations about what scariness she can handle in movies, try not to 'compete' with her. Use that banter to encourage more emotional dialogue. 'How do you feel when your scared? But what about vampires? They have a charm in their seduction...could you resist if I was a vampire wanting to kiss your neck?'.

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    Default Re: Need help overcoming Sh*t test, first time

    That first part was fabulous!! (hmm your trying to play a game within a game arent you? thats some inception stuff right there.)

    And honestly... the rest of it was pretty smooth too!
    That was a great "takeaway" so to speak. (Bait- hook- reel- release)

    I think you're gonna be fine.... but when she replies back, work that Number Close in.

    She's totally ready to swap numbers!


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    Default Re: Need help overcoming Sh*t test, first time

    I just had a girl say this to me and I was wondering if I said the right thing...

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    I like to watch tv late.

    Do you use this site to get one night stands and stuff like that?

    Me
    I've never even had a One Night Stand...it's not very becoming of a gentleman and a scholar lol. My favorite late night TV shows are Tosh.O, South Park and That 70's Show.

    Her
    lol.
    I watching a novela, and The Office. I'm familiar with That 70's Show.
    Yeah, I don't have one night stands because I'm a proper lady as well


    Did I handle that correctly? I thought she might giggle at me calling myself a gentleman and a scholar. My other idea was to be all serious like "That's not really my style, I'm more a of relationship guy"...but that answer seemed boring as f%ck.

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    Default Re: Need help overcoming Sh*t test, first time

    Quote Originally Posted by urbancowboy View Post
    I just had a girl say this to me and I was wondering if I said the right thing...

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    I like to watch tv late.

    Do you use this site to get one night stands and stuff like that?

    Me
    I've never even had a One Night Stand...it's not very becoming of a gentleman and a scholar lol. My favorite late night TV shows are Tosh.O, South Park and That 70's Show.

    Her
    lol.
    I watching a novela, and The Office. I'm familiar with That 70's Show.
    Yeah, I don't have one night stands because I'm a proper lady as well


    Did I handle that correctly? I thought she might giggle at me calling myself a gentleman and a scholar. My other idea was to be all serious like "That's not really my style, I'm more a of relationship guy"...but that answer seemed boring as f%ck.
    What you used is definitely better than the str8 square reply... A Gentleman and a Scholar says a lil something about a person character wise...

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    Default Re: Need help overcoming Sh*t test, first time

    Hey guys so I sent tge message last night and she hasn't responded yet. I was thinking of sending her the Number Close later today if I dont get a response soon. Is that a good of bad idea?

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    Default Re: Need help overcoming Sh*t test, first time

    I'd wait on the Number Close until after she's responsive.

    But.... to spark her curiosity, send her a cliff-hanger text.


    Examples of cliff-hangers are texts that are along the lines of the following:

    “Hey little munchkin, you’ll never guess what happened…”

    “Hey, I have a great idea…”

    “Ohhh, if I had one wish right now, it would be...”

    “So, I have to admit I’ve been thing about…”

    “Oh jeeeez I can’t believe it…”

    “So, I’m driving to work today & one thing kept going through my mind…”


    When you start a thought & then let it trail off like that...

    ...it starts to drive girls crazy, because they just have to know the rest of it. It's one of their instinctive traits. So she's not gonna be able to resist responding back.
    (Just have some sort of idea of what that next part is going to be when you send the teaser.)

    Then, when she's interacting again & you've had a chance to flirt some more, that's when to slip the number close in.


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    Default Re: Need help overcoming Sh*t test, first time

    ok first you should have not fell into the maybe game with her. A woman wants a guy who just goes for what he wants theres no maybe to it. Second you want to get them away from the keyboard before any date and things like that are planned because she has hundreds of guys on there trying to get her to the movies.


    Asking her out before you actually got a little more personal (like getting the number etc) may be a lil to much for her and she may feel like if she gives you the number thats all your gonna ask about like alot of guys try to do online, especially with it being a movie, if shes a 8 the last place she wants to go on a first date is a movie with a guy, she gets that offer all the time.


    If she responds to the message have some small chat (let her respond 1 time acknowledge what she said then go for it) with her and then simply let her know that she seems like an interesting type of woman and your interested in finding out...but not on such a impersonal level like sending match mail. Let her know that you are tired of match being the middle man and your both grown so heres what were gonna do...send me your number and we will take things from there.


    This is the primary strategy I use when getting numbers online and getting them away from the keyboard and it works 8/10 times. Being that some of the damage is done she may not come back but keep this strategy in mind because it works.


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