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Thread: Critic of Newbie - Help on POF

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    Default Critic of Newbie - Help on POF

    So I've just joined the PUA forum although on and off for the last few years I've read some articles and books but never really embraced it.

    Now I've realised the need to change, I need to make a total life style change and to be perfectly honest itís all very daunting and I don't know where to start!! As far as dating goes, online seems like a good place to start?

    I'm hoping you guys can advise me on a better direction, so to put myself out there I've attached a copy of my POF profile as it stands.

    Hey, I guess if you're reading this then I've passed the picture test, ha ha

    I'm probably on here for the same reason as you, I'm looking to get to meet nice people that I can chat with, get to know and build up a friendship and hopefully more.

    I'm dubious about the whole online dating thing but meeting people in bars or clubs isn't ideal either.

    I'd describe myself as being a fairly normal guy who just hasn't met the right girl yet. I'd like to have a special someone to share the ups and downs in each other life's.

    If there is anything you want to know then send me a message as I don't bite ;-)

    Speak to you soon.

    Alan x


    As I can't post a link my profile ID number is 34102708 and username is Happily_Ever_Alan


    OK, so I expect you guys to annihilate it as being lame, boring etc etc but thats what I need, where am I going wrong? Clearly itís not working or otherwise I wouldn't be here.

    So pictures, interests, description, username - What do you guys think?

    Cheers

    OnlyBlue

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    Default Re: Critic of Newbie - Help on POF

    Quote Originally Posted by OnlyBlue View Post
    So I've just joined the PUA forum although on and off for the last few years I've read some articles and books but never really embraced it.

    Now I've realised the need to change, I need to make a total life style change and to be perfectly honest itís all very daunting and I don't know where to start!! As far as dating goes, online seems like a good place to start?

    I'm hoping you guys can advise me on a better direction, so to put myself out there I've attached a copy of my POF profile as it stands.

    Hey, I guess if you're reading this then I've passed the picture test, ha ha

    Immediately do away the "Hey's" and "Hi's". It makes you look weak --> needy. Delete the "I guess," makes you look weak (again). Remove the "ha ha," you look really stupid and desperate by saying it (and, by, furthermore, separating it into two words).

    I'm probably on here for the same reason as you, I'm looking to get to meet nice people that I can chat with, get to know and build up a friendship and hopefully more.

    Delete "I'm probably," "I'm looking," and "hopefully more". You're supposed to be brief. Treasure your words like gold. Moreover, you give off a weak-guy vibe. That's the only consistent theme of your profile so far. Not interesting. Nothing unique or different. I'm a chick and I get 2000> messages a week. What makes you stand out? Nothing.


    I'm dubious about the whole online dating thing but meeting people in bars or clubs isn't ideal either.

    Don't sound negative with "I'm dubious, etc."


    I'd describe myself as being a fairly normal guy who just hasn't met the right girl yet. I'd like to have a special someone to share the ups and downs in each other life's.

    Don't say "I'd describe myself," we know this already -- this is, after all, your profile description (no need to reiterate that you're describing yourself).


    If there is anything you want to know then send me a message as I don't bite ;-)

    Please remove that last part AND the winkie face! Like the first thing a girl thinks when she reads your profile is that she's afraid of getting bitten! And winkie faces give off a desperate, "please approve of what I'm saying," insecure vibe.


    Speak to you soon.

    Remove

    Alan x


    As I can't post a link my profile ID number is 34102708 and username is Happily_Ever_Alan


    OK, so I expect you guys to annihilate it as being lame, boring etc etc but thats what I need, where am I going wrong? Clearly itís not working or otherwise I wouldn't be here.

    So pictures, interests, description, username - What do you guys think?

    Cheers

    OnlyBlue
    I was harsh because I want you to do well.

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    Default Re: Critic of Newbie - Help on POF

    Quote Originally Posted by ShawnBuskov View Post
    I was harsh because I want you to do well.

    I feel you did a great analysis, however, it mostly did away with his entire profile. What are some things you would insert in place of the deleted bits to keep it flowing well?

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    Default Re: Critic of Newbie - Help on POF

    Quote Originally Posted by acepace View Post
    I feel you did a great analysis, however, it mostly did away with his entire profile. What are some things you would insert in place of the deleted bits to keep it flowing well?
    Two different approaches: (1) Use short, vague, ambiguous sentences which increase your appeal and which others can relate to. You want to have material that girls can message you with, like, "Hey, i reeely like X, Y, Z tooo, how kool!" (2) Write a paragraph that is completely unrelated to anything having to do with a traditional profile description. It has to be funny, 'cool,' and 'hip'. Girls will message you saying how funny your profile was, a reference to it, or some variation thereof.

    What it boils down to is what type of demographic he's targeting. If he wants the shallow, superficial, fark-on-first-date girl he has to make himself seem like he doesn't give a sh1t about anything. He's a cool dude who just goes with the flow and likes to have a good time. No strings attached kinda guy. If you want the couple-of-dates, potential partner girl, that's different (but I assume he doesn't want that; he's on PUA, after all). Regardless of which demographic he's looking for, he should never express anything sexual on his profile. Girls can smell a desperate loser who wants sex from MILES away.

    An important thing is to "screen" girls and come to grip with the reality that there are certain girls you will just never get. These are girls who use online dating as a form of self-therapy. fark them. Don't waste time on them. target girls with equally ambiguous profiles. The girls with the slutty photos will rarely go out with you since they're overwhelmed with messages and don't want to have to choose between so many people. It's my first week of online dating, and this weekend I hooked up two different chicks. Two fark buddies. Both attractive. Both banging bodies. It certainly was not luck. I experimented with many different techniques, strategies, created a "recon" female profile to gain psychological insight, etc.

    I will not provide him with any material. He needs to come up with his own because a girl can also detect when a guy is projecting a false personality. Again, TRUST ME, girls are super-good when it comes to detecting sh1t that flies past us.

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    Default Re: Critic of Newbie - Help on POF

    If you're reading this then I've passed the picture test. I'm here for the same reason as you. Looking to get to meet nice people that I can chat with, get to know. Meeting people in bars or clubs isn't my thing. I’m a fairly normal guy who just hasn't met the right girl. I'd like to have a special someone to share the ups and downs in each other life's.

    Speak to you soon.

    I just created that in <2 minutes with the information he originally posted. Significant difference, right. It may seem like a douche-move, but I never tell people what to do. I tell them how to do it. Better to teach a man how to fish, then merely give him a fish for one meal. People need to learn the principles, and then adapt these principles to their individual personalities and nuances.


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