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    Lightbulb CES value... a self-evalution pickup method

    Lately I'm developing a self-evaluation method to use in my counseling. Since it takes a lot of time to evaluate a pickup problem with women and men, i'm trying to invent a method to quickly discover common problems in pickup and relationships. I'm also trying to develop a new attraction method based on hormone levels and basic brain chemestry, but that is on the "maybe" pile. So I need opinions on this:

    It's called the CES value because it's in portugues but here how it works. IT CAN BE APPLIED TO WOMEN AND MEN.

    C- Trust in the partner
    E- Emotional level
    S- Sexual drive and Tension

    Its values are from 0 to 2, 0 being almost none, 1 being the something not too strong or not too weak, and 2 being very high.
    Here are a few examples with men, I'm still studying women with a couple of female friends who are informed of my studies and are very reliable.

    Stable long-term relationship: C1 E1 S2(normally at the beginning of a relationship)/S1 (when the relationship becomes a routine)

    CES of a common friendzoned guy: C0 E2 S1

    CES of a low-T man or a depressed man: C0 E2 S0

    CES of a True Player (also unfairly called ass****): C1/C2 E0 S2

    CES of a man after a fight with his partner: C0 E0 S1


    I know its a little light and very subjective but i need opinios and advice

    Good game to all the PUAs
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    Default Re: CES value... a self-evalution pickup method

    Emotional level - as in emotional reactivity or emotional attachment or something else?

    Also I don't know if your familiar with Vin Dicarlo's pandoras box system, it would also help to compare and contrast your system with Pandoras Bix if you know it
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    Default Re: CES value... a self-evalution pickup method

    emotional attachment to someone. Yes ive been trying to finish reading it it but classes leave no time

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    Default Re: CES value... a self-evalution pickup method

    I see what u're triying to do but the thing is u have to come up with every single senario. What i mean is how will a newbie pua know what C, E, S he has?
    I think u should also come up with a way to test for C, E, S then we'll talk.
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    Default Re: CES value... a self-evalution pickup method

    Yeah this confuses me.....maybe I'm just simple lol

    Linking x

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    Default Re: CES value... a self-evalution pickup method

    i think it would be a good way to rate what state you are in, but if there's no way to test for it other than self-examination, then it won't be very reliable, btw i just don't see how this is going to help newbies who are still flooding their minds with any and every bit of pua material they can get their hands on, if anything this will only complicate matters for them

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    Default Re: CES value... a self-evalution pickup method

    yea I'm with meteora it would complicate things if say u took a few minutes out from ur set and came back with a wrong answer and then adapted ur style to improve the set,
    pandora's box is quite helpful because the types give u an idea on how u should be gaming her, while looking for the ioi's (y)
    good effort though(y)

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    Default Re: CES value... a self-evalution pickup method

    ...I like it! Farkin run with this brah! xD Y'all know I like the intricate that being said...

    @Bmr_Id
    Have you noticed any patterns of micro-gestures or gesture clusters correlating to CES levels?

    Something like, for (C) speed at which they pass or fail compliance tests /and/or/ how relaxation in their shoulders or rear eye muscles (signs of feelings of safety) in the presence of the partner... or like for (E) maybe how much their facial expressions react to twists and turns in stories... maybe to assess (S) looking for sexuality-specific signs: flushed cheeks, aroused breathing patterns, nervous swallowing, glances, bedroom eyes, doggie-dinner-bowl, etc?

    Compared of course to her default gestures and body language.

    ...yeah I think there's definitely ways to assess the CES in just a few minutes of conversation.
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    Default Re: CES value... a self-evalution pickup method

    i never said i didn't like it i only said he needs to back it up
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    Default Re: CES value... a self-evalution pickup method

    I was thinking of a more easier evaluation.
    Questions like do you trust her, do you like her and do you fark her, but from a scale from 0 to 2. Not complicated, just to evaluate each persons status


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