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Thread: 2 HB conversation going nowhere

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    Default 2 HB conversation going nowhere

    first girl- bartender/waitress

    Fuckin sleep. im always so tired on my days off that i never wana do anything!! Lammmeeee

    me: wow lol sleep... You are doing something next time thats fun!! ill show ya =)

    like what

    Me: hmmm its a surprise!

    i dont like surprises especially from strangers

    me: a movie sounds good to me! hmm action movie

    eeehhh i dont really like going to the movies unless its for world war z premiere in June 2013 cause my shit is set for that

    me: haha is it because of brad pitt or zombies

    zombie

    me: why do you like zombies so much?

    cause im a sifi nerd

    me: well when that movie comes out we can go watch it lol but how about you watch a movie at my place

    ehh idk.

    me: or your place. that way your more comfortable and because it doesnt matter to me where we meet

    me: hey dork butt what are you up to

    bout to head to work

    me: workaholic lol you have to get a hobby or something

    dont have time im always at work

    me: why do yo uwork so hard? is there something your wanting to buy?

    no i work like this all the time since i was 16

    me: ok so yo u live to work. well ill come visit you sometime lol so you can actually smile while you work

    i know the convo is dead. but i do this with every girl. i need some tips on how to keep conversations alive.
    im on a different level

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    Default Re: 2 HB conversation going nowhere

    Quote Originally Posted by Hopeful33 View Post
    first girl- bartender/waitress

    farkin sleep. im always so tired on my days off that i never wana do anything!! Lammmeeee
    Chance to disqualify her for leading a boring life ^

    me: wow lol sleep... You are doing something next time thats fun!! ill show ya =)
    Giving her a slight IOI in the form of a temptation...


    like what
    She's curious...

    Me: hmmm its a surprise!
    Instead build the tension and escalate the energy - that will hook her; instead of her saying "tell me" and you saying "no"...

    i dont like surprises especially from strangers
    Oooof. That's an IOD - Neg her quick! Crucio! xD

    me: a movie sounds good to me! hmm action movie
    Noooo! Not an IOI - it's done...

    eeehhh i dont really like going to the movies unless its for world war z premiere in June 2013 cause my sh1t is set for that
    There's another IOD from her, and just more Fluff...

    me: haha is it because of brad pitt or zombies
    That's another slight IOI from you (simply because you're asking about/showing interest in her)...

    zombie
    She's not talking much, in this context it's a passive IOD...

    me: why do you like zombies so much?
    Another undeserved IOI tossed to her...
    (I think it's either Lovedrop or Gambler - whoever the first guy that sarges with Style in The Game - has a thing where he doesn't ask questions, but simply makes a statement about a topic he wants the girl to talk about; doing so both leads the conversation and withholds the IOI of asking - she'll almost always offer the information in a follow-up comment that you would have gotten from asking anyway)

    cause im a sifi nerd
    She's de-sexualizing (disqualifying) herself

    It's almost like she's running cat-string on you:
    Her: IOD
    U: IOI
    Her: IOD
    U: IOI
    Her: DSQ

    me: well when that movie comes out we can go watch it lol but how about you watch a movie at my place
    The relative value is all farked up at this point, gotta build more attraction (be chased)

    ehh idk.
    ^ IOD

    me: or your place. that way your more comfortable and because it doesnt matter to me where we meet

    I'd recommend practicing up on negs and IOD's - even open a few sets with the sole intention of blowing yourself out on over-negging. Open a few others with the sole intention of giving her an IOD everytime you get an IOI - even like, starting a conversational thread, letting an awkward silence happen, then IOD her when she re-initiates, just for the h*11 of practicing IOD's

    me: hey dork butt what are you up to
    New girl I assume?

    bout to head to work

    me: workaholic lol you have to get a hobby or something
    Nice, that's a good neg

    dont have time im always at work
    She didn't comply to your recommendation, time to keep the neg going with cocky/funny
    "aww poor chicken little can't go on vacation because she works too much to save up for a vacation :'( catch 22... c'est tragique... lol"
    "uhhm the 1950's called with the labor unions and said your weekends don't have to be boring anymore"
    "oh lamesville! How the @#$% are you still in my phone if you're so BORING! " - harsh.
    "My great-aunt clair is less lame in her spare time and she hasn't been able to feel her legs since 1997 xD" - trash talk, I'm gonna stop here cuz these'll just keep getting worse lol

    me: why do yo uwork so hard? is there something your wanting to buy?
    This is a rapport-building move

    no i work like this all the time since i was 16
    STACK AWAY STACK AWAY STACK AWAY STACK AWAY STACK AWAY STACK AWAY STACK AWAY !
    She's thinking about she needs to work to pay her bills and sh1t - this is the opposite of turning her on - srsly stack to anything when a girl starts thinking about bills and sh1t - talk about the weather, describe a scab on your knee, tell a racially insensitive joke - anything but the misery of daily drudgery

    me: ok so yo u live to work. well ill come visit you sometime lol so you can actually smile while you work
    Well this actually sets you up very nicely for some flower-bearing gesture that would be congruent with a romantic comedy - which, combine with Direct Game and a solid frame should do the trick for an iNvestor type - though it will be automatic FZ if she's a Tester (pandoras box)

    i know the convo is dead. but i do this with every girl. i need some tips on how to keep conversations alive.
    If only some handsome young fella had written down some notes about conversation...
    http://www.puaforums.com/how-flirt/3...versation.html
    http://www.puaforums.com/how-talk-gi...logy-eine.html
    http://www.puaforums.com/how-talk-gi...logy-deux.html

    Anyway buddy I hope I've been helpful, lemme know if there's any followups
    DTF HB's omw 2 LTR

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    Default Re: 2 HB conversation going nowhere

    when you say statement is it like after she says the whole thing about the movie. i should be like i think brad pitt is a good actor? something like that?
    im on a different level

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    Default Re: 2 HB conversation going nowhere

    Autismus correct me if i'm wrong, she seems like the downer type as it is (like non responsive), would negging be appropriate, i feel teasing her would get her more responsive than lowering her self-esteem?

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    Default Re: 2 HB conversation going nowhere

    That's a good point Hyp! I tend to use the terms teasing and negging interchangably cuz I sometimes forget they're two different things. Teasing would def be better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hopeful33 View Post
    when you say statement is it like after she says the whole thing about the movie. i should be like i think brad pitt is a good actor? something like that?
    Essentially yeah. And the more cocky/funny and/or sarcastic/creative the better

    Liiike:
    "eeehhh i dont really like going to the movies unless its for world war z premiere in June 2013 cause my sh1t is set for that"

    *look to your right, place your hand on the nearest object*
    "Well looks like this is my weapon in the zombie apocalypse..." *point to the nearest object on her right* "...and I guess that's yours"

    "Oh snap Brad Pitt is in that - he'll never be able to top his performance in Inglorious Basterds - you've never seen it!?!"
    DTF HB's omw 2 LTR

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    Default Re: 2 HB conversation going nowhere

    haha yeah i was thinking that, it's common that people think neg is teasing but yeah

    riffing on that zombie apocolypse, when u point to her "weapon" make sure it's like a napkin or fork something that would seem sh1t to actually have in the real situation ZOMBIEEEES

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    Default Re: 2 HB conversation going nowhere

    yea seeing every thing put out with notes on them helps me see i need to improve even more then what i thought i did
    im on a different level


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