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    Arrow Cocky funny backfires

    There is this girl that I worked with for a couple years. Now that I'm single we reconnected and we've gone on one date before that was last Thursday. We had fun I ended up driving her home just dropped her off and left it at that.

    I went NC since Saturday just to let it play out.
    She text me yesterday and asked if I wanted to go out to Sushi with her today. I said yes, so we where suppose to go today after work. That was before this text conversation:

    Her: Your not gonna stand me up right?

    Me: Only if a prettier girl comes around

    Her: U jerk! hahaha

    Me: But that will be hard to do.

    Her: Yeah i know

    Me: So what are you buying me for dessert?

    Her: Your the gentleman

    Me: Your the one that asked me out on a date lol

    Her: Nooo WTH!

    Me: You didn't? so i can just go home then right? lol

    Her: Go... Its cool

    Me: Wow you get defensive really quick huh. Its cute though haha

    Her: I'm serious. You can go home

    Me: Only if your gonna be a jerk about it.

    Her: I'm not being a jerk... you are.. So I'll let you go home... Thanks.


    So what do you guys think was I little to aggressive with the cockiness? Was it to much? is this chick even worth it if she reacts that way every time I kid around with her that way?
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    Default Re: Cocky funny backfires

    I think the whole date thing set her off. But i dont think its over. Just keep your frame. Act like you were joking as u already said. Don't get defensive.

    Btw mentioning dating is making a frame. She may not see you as a boyfriend yet. Dont put labels on relationships (especially not so early).

    Let things play out naturally. Mentioning dating may seem like a commitment to some girls. Its kind of clingy sounding.
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    Default Re: Cocky funny backfires

    "You're the one who asked me out on a date lol"
    Maybe you lost her there, wasn't very clear that you were joking.
    Generally though, you never, NEVER get moody/angry with a girl. Always be upbeat and playful, remember you're the prize, you don't care.

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    Default Re: Cocky funny backfires

    Oh and also when she got mad, u told her your going home. Sounds defensive(even if it wasnt meant to be). Plus u gave her an out by saying that. She controlled frame. U lost ur manly power lol.
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    Default Re: Cocky funny backfires

    I think you did fine, but I agree with Desolrit. You could've led it a little better. Show intent, but also throw in a hook that can soften it.

    Me: So what are you buying me for dessert?

    Her: Your the gentleman

    Me: Your the one that asked me out on a date lol I enjoy strawberries with whipped cream, covered in chocolate sauce! You?

    That's the spin I would've put on it. Don't just let it sit there with a negative feeling. When you leave the ball in her court to continue conversation, it backfires if you're being sarcastic. I'm sarcastic a lot myself, and I find that adding fluffy nice hooks like that soften the blow.

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    Default Re: Cocky funny backfires

    So how did it develop after? Did you leave?

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    Default Re: Cocky funny backfires

    Thanks guys really appreciate the advice. Yeah I see where I went wrong a little bit I think I had the right idea just the wrong execution. When I told her I was just joking she actually ended up saying that she was just joking too. Which I didn't really believe. In the end I had to stay at work late so she said we could just do it another day. But I'm pretty sure I farked it up. Time to go NC and see what comes of it right?
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    Default Re: Cocky funny backfires

    I'll try to flip your perspective a bit. You're a feisty sarcastic playful guy, what if she is the same?! Don't let her put the fire under your feet causing you to apologize, just ease out of it. "If you don't like what's being said, change the conversation".

    Instead of sorry, I would've said "Yeah, I guess I'm a bit of a jerk. I'm just trying to see if you have a sense of humour though. You're a fiesty one huh?"

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    Default Re: Cocky funny backfires

    Yeah I see what you mean that's actually a really good idea it sounds like your starting to apologize but there's just no apology there at the end.

    I didn't end up apologizing but i did break frame and get defensive which my guess is worse. But I did learn from it so that's good I think I just need to work on the push/pull.
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    Default Re: Cocky funny backfires

    I think that you lost it a bit earlier. Namely with the "But that will be hard to do." That sounds to me that it is hard to find a better looking one that you will change her for. To me it sounds like you qualified her.

    I agree that with the date thing that you kind of lost it!
    A possible continuation based on Konmans idea:
    Me: So what are you buying me for dessert?

    Her: Your the gentleman

    Me: No, I'm the jerk, remember! Jerks never buy dessert! They make the dessert. So it will be whips of cream for the lady!

    Her: You have no manners/ You are an asshole/ Pervert

    Me: Honey, I know where to get the best Sicillian strawberries. I hand whip the cream myself added with freshly melted Belgian chocolate that I got from a trip to... such an unforgetable taste. Do you like chocolate at all?


    Also some girls have no sense of humor and cocky &funny does not work on them.
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