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    beaker52 is offline PUA in Training
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    Default Escalate with bait-and-switch

    I had a text exchange today which I figured actually represented a pattern that I could share with you guys.

    [I haven't messaged this girl in 2 months, she's kinda interested, I didn't do anything with it]

    Me: "Hey Jennifer. Drink, Monday, 8pm, same place as last time. You free?"
    Her: "Hey there. I'm actually visiting a family member on Monday evening. I'm free this weekend though, or next wednesday/thursday evening?"
    Me: "Mmm. In that case, Saturday, 7pm, dinner, drink and great conversation"
    [she says agrees, closed]

    We take it from re-initiating contact and casual drinks to dinner and acceptance in 4 messages. But the interesting bit is the escalation to dinner.

    Breakdown:

    Let's go for a causal drink. I was very blunt with her in my first message. Straight to the point. Quite bold seeing as I haven't spoken to her in months. I'm leading, but asked her to confirm as not to be a total d1ck.
    Me: "Hey Jennifer. Drink, Monday, 8pm, same place as last time. You free?"

    By 'rejecting' my proposal and suggesting alternatives, she could easily take lead of the conversation - I'd be following *her* with a response like "Yeah ok, how about saturday then?". Not a position of dominance/strength.
    Her: "Hey there. I'm actually visiting a family member on Monday evening. I'm free this weekend though, or next wednesday/thursday evening?"

    So instead I assume control. I use the opportunity to escalate to dinner. I don't even give her the opportunity to say no by making the assumption she'll accept the time and day I chose because they fall within the constraints she gave me.
    Me: "Mmm. In that case, Saturday, 7pm, dinner, drink and great conversation"

    Essentially what's happened is "Ok, if you can't do that, I'll make a concession but I'll take something else as well"

    Enjoy.

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    aggawam is offline PUA in Training
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    Default Re: Escalate with bait-and-switch

    But drinks > dinner is considered escalation???

    At least here in Brazil drinks would be considerated more intimate and casual than dinner. Even though I wouldn't call it escalation.

    Briefly, escalation to me is: open > Kino > make out > fclose

    And I think this girl is into you.... if she wasn't interested, she wouldn't suggest any other days to meet. What would you reply if she didn't suggest any other free days?

    But I agree, your text is a good in many aspects:

    - Kept short and bold.
    - Straight to the point (used only as tool to get a date)
    - Lead the conversation and the planning of the date.

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    beaker52 is offline PUA in Training
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    Default Re: Escalate with bait-and-switch

    I used the term escalation to describe the jump from casual to something with more intention.

    In the UK at least, if you're dining a girl there is a relatively high expectation of seduction. With drinks not so much. Coffee, even less so. I'm sure you get the idea.

    To be honest, I kinda agree that my example isn't the best. But I was more excited by the principle of giving with one hand and taking with the other.

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    Default Re: Escalate with bait-and-switch

    Obviously it worked, so no critique. But I would use fridays and saturdays to be with my friends killing it in the club. Other weekdays to meet with those girls..


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