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Thread: wannabe Alpha texting opinions.

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    Default wannabe Alpha texting opinions.

    Hey guys,

    In an effort to not resurrect older threads and to hopefully get some replies ive put up a new thread.

    Before you guys flame me for sticking with this chick, ive got only one other in the works and shes gone back to germany + i have exams so I really haven't been out chatting to new girls that much :/

    So, first off Ive gotten the opinion from a few other threads that a) I should be qualifying and building attraction with this girl. Im attempting this via text/fb as i think she has gone back to uni (should be visiting sooner rather than later though). Also I should be keeping control of the conversation whilst keeping it fun and flirty. Text game is a major sticking point atm even though I have read the stickies

    so cutting it short: heres my attempt at a conversation with her its a few texts in.

    me: mate shut up

    her: Mate, your not my mate only joking you totally are

    me: awww your soo sweet, your giving me diabetes! Stahp it!

    her: Im just a very sweet person

    me: out of all the ### I know...I think Im your favourite.

    her: Awww you are by far my fave #####

    me: every time i see you i smile. when you walk i laugh. whe you speak i get excited. For some reason retarded people amuse me!

    her: were you looking in the mirror?

    me: nope i dont have one, plus im cooking burgers so im not even in my room

    her: wow. burgers. fancy.

    me: First attempt anything to not revise at the moment xD

    her: haha cooking to procrastinate. I love it

    me: fark yeah. i don't think your ready for my cooking. heck neither am i. its either lobstromonous or lobstromonous.

    her: I think it will definitely be lobstromonous.

    Me: lessoned learned KISS also applies to cooking

    Her: huh?

    Me: Kiss: keep it simple stupid

    Her: im still confused.

    me: are you pulling your confused face?

    her: yup

    me: the one with the scrunch abouve your nose that makes you look like a 2 year old?

    her: i dont know what my confused face looks like

    me: you are missing out, its kinda funny

    her: pretty much like my normal face then

    me: naah your normal face makes me want to run for the hills but whenever you have your confused face on I just want to hug you because you look so lost.

    her: lost? usually im thinking your a muppet?

    me: your reminding me more and more like my sister. shes a brat, are you!?

    her: I am awesome and from what i can rememeber your sis is lovely aswell maybe you are the brat!

    me: I will pretend to agree as long as it makes you sleep at night!

    her: I sleep like a log, dont worry

    OKAY LONG I KNOW! heavy use of lines from other posts but atleast im getting a response other than one word etc

    Any ideas of where I went wrong, what to do next?

    Cheeers!

    Btw 60yoc is awesome would recommend!!

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    Default Re: wannabe Alpha texting opinions.

    I agree, your texting is way too long. However, I like the tone and playfulness. But I think you overdo that as well. You can't just be the funny comedian guy. AT some point, I think you need to bring in more serious things, more mystery. I think you want to make these texts shorter, and say something, like, "hey, I gotta run, a good girl friend of mine just got us free tickets to xyz show!, Peace!" stuff like that so it shows you have a life, etc... I'm not sure how often you get ot see the girl. It gets harder if you don't have in person interaction.... things just die down
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    Default Re: wannabe Alpha texting opinions.

    Hey Blazeboy,

    cheers for the reply and advice, its really appreciated.

    with serious do mean in general topics? or should I be working along the lines of comfort? I would be afraid that I would be swinging too far in each direction so if you had advice on that that would be good.

    With regards to physical contact unfortunately we do live quite far apart, although she has mentioned that I should definitely come and spend the weekend drinking with her etc.

    Surprisingly enough this leads to my next question: as Im feeling like i am still in the friend zone with this chick do you reckon I should use triangle theory (i think thats what it is called) and maybe attract but not close one of her friends? Or would this just be retarded? So many thoughts running through my head haha!

    Cheers again buddy!

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    Default Re: wannabe Alpha texting opinions.

    i think you have good humour, but this is the kind you need to bring in person where you guys can be Kino-ing or touching and escalating.

    it's a little long and it seems the conversation was fast-paced .. meaning that fast response = you are too free to chat with her = no life. (in her perspective)

    The chat needs to be more mysterious and build more attraction, it almost feels you were gloating while feeding her compliments and you didn't demonstrate higher value.

    Here's a few things that could have changed.. say you are making steaks (even if you are eatting chips) .. that way you can invite her over where she brings you the food and you cook it and you know what happens after the meal

    you are focusing the conversation on her .. change it up.. talk about yourself and general stuff that relates to sexual attraction.

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    Default Re: wannabe Alpha texting opinions.

    Hey man!

    Thanks for the insight! It was definitely fast paced. Certainly almost instant replies from her.

    I see what you mean with regards to the no life haha!

    Ahh see this is where i struggle. Ive obviously gone waaaay to hard with my attempts of dhvs so much so that its gloating bummer!
    Obviously this needs work, so im wondering if you and any of the guys can suggest what you think i can do to salvage this and be better at dhving....

    general stuff that relats to sexual attraction has confused me though...not to sound rude or anything but do you reckon you could elaborate?

    Cheers!

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    Default Re: wannabe Alpha texting opinions.

    dhv simply means that you up your value to her other guy friends...

    - have skills that puts you ahead (cooking, talents, natural humour even)
    - giving attention only when you need it and not when she needs it
    - when she does something unacceptable, acknowledge your disapproval
    - not texting immediately after she texts you
    - calling her at YOUR convenience.
    - have high standards, show her you cna move on easily if she doesn't comply.
    - be unpredictable
    - never apologize, but do admit you are wrong if you are.
    - never say yes all the time.

    those are basic textbook examples...

    to salvage it... look above the list and control the situation, before she takes a dump on you like a lost puppy and friendzones you...

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    Default Re: wannabe Alpha texting opinions.

    First of all, I don't think you have lost it at all.
    But, the impression that I get from reading this, is that you try too hard to be funny and different the whole time. But she has responded the whole time so that's good.

    I like some combo's, but knowing when to stop them is interesting also. For example, when she said (are you looking in the mirror), you could have not replied in a while, and she would be thinking like: "did I messed up?"

    Finally, you would want to be a little more sexual. For example, in the last line, I might have answered something like.
    - you wouldn't sleep like a log if I'm around there..


    I'm still training hard to be a good at it, so I might be wrong with somethings.

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    Default Re: wannabe Alpha texting opinions.

    Hey guys,

    cheers for the responses! reading your opinions means alot!

    just wanted to say soemthing that I may not have made clear about our relationship.

    first off ive known her on and off for a while however i did make my interest known at one point prior to hearing about pick up so that was a mistake. she pretty much friend zoned me there and then ha (this was last year). Since then ive pretty much just frozen her out until very recently in an attempt to get out of the friend zone.

    She as a person i still "the innocent type" and is shy so getting her to start a conversation/continue a convo is hard in itself. mainly she has replied with "haha, i see!" in the past. Do you reckon i should still be the one to initiate?

    Obviously my knowledge is still lacking on major areas but from what ive gathered in order to get out of the dreaded friend zone is to be alpha and more sexual (thanks to THEelegance for the tip").

    Studmuffin, i take it that dhving is meant to be subtle instead of basically just telling her, is it even possible to do this via text? :S or should i just push for a meet up asap and do it in person whilst Kino escalating?

    I don't fully understand frame control so I take it that Im sucking bad at it here?

    I may be just going around in circles so I apologize if Im confusing!

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    Default Re: wannabe Alpha texting opinions.

    Don't attempt to build too much comfort through texting. You'll put yourself in danger of getting LJB'D,. Aim for the meet-up ASAP and ramp up the sexual Tension. Teasing over text is fine, but make sure when you see her that you act congruently with how you did over text.

    Whenever I text a girl, I always have a goal in mind(90% of the time it's for a meet-up). Have one, and stick to working towards it.
    Isolate. Escalate. Penetrate. Again and again.

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