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    batsy is offline PUA in Training
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    Default Independent, secure women

    I've ran into these more and more lately. Typically they're 30+, educated, in a good job and live their life to the fullest.

    Dream women, right? They know what they want and know their sh1t. But, they don't chase. Their game is tight. Very rarely they make an effort to contact, if ever.

    But, they when you contact them they do go out with you, or offer alternative time. Sometimes even cancel their other trivial plans to make time. Then you have absolutely a great evening, good talks, hot sex and after you leave in the morning you simply won't hear from them again unless you contact. This can go on for weeks, even months.

    What kind of strategy to follow here? Initiating contact isn't anywhere near 50-50, hell 90-10 at best. You can not freeze them out. You can go NC but it has no effect as they are familiar with the game and know what you're doing. When you crack and call them again to ask them out everything is as good as ever.

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    The Enlightened Man is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default Re: Independent, secure women

    Great question I have often wondered myself.. I will be curious to see the answers you get

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    Default Re: Independent, secure women

    Sounds like the value perception is off. Either they know they're high value chicks and you've been dhv'd yourself up to thier level - but she wants an even higher high value male for any LTR. Or she know's she's high value and she's been in the dating game long enough that sometimes she just likes to forget her frontal cortex and let herself grt emotionally stimulated (aka picked up) into a ONS - but that's all.

    Have you looked into seeing ifyou get different results depending on how much comfort or attraction you build? More comfort might lean it toward LTR while more attraction might lean it to ONS
    DTF HB's omw 2 LTR

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    Default Re: Independent, secure women

    Especially with older women, who know what they want, you have to be 'colder'. Just because you initiate contact, doesn't say anything about alphaness. You want to see her, so you're hitting her up, if not don't. If there's no mutual effort and you push too hard, then you're trying too hard. But an occasional reminder, or open line of communication is usually never a bad thing. Doesn't matter how successful she is, she's still a woman and if you play it cool and so on, you'll see a shift in the dynamic.


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