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    Default Re: Competing With Jerks and Bad Boys!

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant C View Post
    What Batman says is all true but don't forget that women love to feel emotions whether there good or bad. Jerks make them feel emotions all the time maybe 30% of the time it's good emotions and 70% of the time it's bad or leaving them pissed off. Being pissed off is still a strong emotion and to them it's better than a nice guy who makes them feel good 60% of the time but bored the other 40% of the time. ( by the way I don't usually work in percentages )

    My point is jerks all ways make them feel something, a roller coaster of emotions is exciting and keeps them wanting more.
    Do you have any examples of an emotional roller coaster?
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    Default Re: Competing With Jerks and Bad Boys!

    Quote Originally Posted by Xmrider View Post
    Do you have any examples of an emotional roller coaster?
    As in ups and downs, as in different emotions like making her happy, making her feel excited by being spontaneous and even making her feel jealous in fact that you could be with other girls if you wanted. You want her to want YOU and to chase YOU which is what some jerks are able to do.

    It's not really my thing but there is something called asshole game which a guy called Manwhore has got down to a T. It's basically being an asshole but still treating girls with respect, sounds contradicting I know but look him up on YouTube.
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    Default Re: Competing With Jerks and Bad Boys!

    But does it get to a point when a woman has enough of the bad boy antics, and finally wants to find a guy that is a little more stable? I read somewhere, maybe even on this forum, that an average girl will be involved with 5 BAD BOYS before she gets over it, and moves on to a different type of guy?

    Any thoughts?

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    Default Re: Competing With Jerks and Bad Boys!

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant C View Post
    As in ups and downs, as in different emotions like making her happy, making her feel excited by being spontaneous and even making her feel jealous in fact that you could be with other girls if you wanted. You want her to want YOU and to chase YOU which is what some jerks are able to do.

    It's not really my thing but there is something called asshole game which a guy called Manwhore has got down to a T. It's basically being an asshole but still treating girls with respect, sounds contradicting I know but look him up on YouTube.

    I get the theory as I kind of figured it out what could work on such type of girls... kind of like Push Pull, but going more extreme and this is what I would like to find out more. Will look up the Asshole game!


    Quote Originally Posted by easyflow View Post
    But does it get to a point when a woman has enough of the bad boy antics, and finally wants to find a guy that is a little more stable? I read somewhere, maybe even on this forum, that an average girl will be involved with 5 BAD BOYS before she gets over it, and moves on to a different type of guy?

    Any thoughts?
    If she wants to settle down yes, but she will still be attracted to the Bad Boy. I would say that a girls dreams would be to find a Bad Boy that she can tame and marry!

    I think that we should distiguish here between Bad Boys and Jerks. Jerks have abussive behaviour and some definetly do not like abussive behaviour at some point, after being abused.
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    Default Re: Competing With Jerks and Bad Boys!

    Kind of on topic but I was acting like a jerk at the Strip Club last night and got this strippers #, and she kept coming over to me even thou I didn't give her 1c and was basically making fun of her and her friend

    I may have upset her friend though. She said I shouldn't make fun of her it might hurt her ego and I loudly said "It's cool she's a Stripper she has a huge ego.." then she sort of walked away but I didn't really like her anyways.

    Now that I think of it I was really mean to girls back in highschool and did get laid a lot with attractive girls but I didn't really know anything about "game" back then. :\
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    Default Re: Competing With Jerks and Bad Boys!

    Whoah I don't know what's happening lol.

    Look, you don't need to be a bad boy or and asshole to put a woman on emotional roller coasters. Those are too extreme. The constant makeup and breakup stuff is too heavy and both people become numb to it after a while. It's not healthy.

    What you need is standards. Find what things you will tolerate and not tolerate. When you are having a good time then be happy and enjoy. If she says or does something that you don't like then switch it up. Get angry and even let her know that you don't like that behavior. That doesn't translate to yell at her. But pick your battles.

    There will be sudden Tension and she will want it back to being comfortable. So allow her to make the effort to make things right. Have the Mindset "I'm mad right now, but I don't want to be mad. However, I just can't help it." So once she makes a genuine effort to makes things right then cheer up and let it go. All this can happen without breaking up all the time or even yelling and calling each other out of your names. Those are extreme. Just don't be afraid to get upset and show her you are upset.

    This is something that has to be maintained. There is no "taming" you. It's not like you're so wild that you will be cheating on her. It's just about being unpredictable. When I am mad at my girl, sometimes I'll let her go and not talk to her for day. Other times I'll pick a fight and complain. Other times when I let her go I only let her go for a few hours instead of a whole day. Sometimes I let things go while others I hold onto it for a bit. It's being unpredictable and exciting. NONE of these are extreme. I'm not constantly breaking up with her or getting into screaming matches. That's stupid. I just make sure I do something different every time.

    Besides, what does bad boy even mean? That you don't give a fark about anything? If that's the case she will definitely get tired of that routine. There's no roller coaster ride with that. The ones that women go crazy for are the ones that say they love her like no one else before, then cheat on her. It's mixed signals. She doesn't understand and has to figure him out. Figure him out and fix him. This is NOT a healthy relationship, but you can utilize some of these things in a more healthy fashion. And it just comes down to putting yourself first. Be selfish.
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    Default Re: Competing With Jerks and Bad Boys!

    Quote Originally Posted by BatMan View Post
    Whoah I don't know what's happening lol.

    Look, you don't need to be a bad boy or and asshole to put a woman on emotional roller coasters. Those are too extreme. The constant makeup and breakup stuff is too heavy and both people become numb to it after a while. It's not healthy.

    What you need is standards. Find what things you will tolerate and not tolerate. When you are having a good time then be happy and enjoy. If she says or does something that you don't like then switch it up. Get angry and even let her know that you don't like that behavior. That doesn't translate to yell at her. But pick your battles.

    There will be sudden Tension and she will want it back to being comfortable. So allow her to make the effort to make things right. Have the Mindset "I'm mad right now, but I don't want to be mad. However, I just can't help it." So once she makes a genuine effort to makes things right then cheer up and let it go. All this can happen without breaking up all the time or even yelling and calling each other out of your names. Those are extreme. Just don't be afraid to get upset and show her you are upset.

    This is something that has to be maintained. There is no "taming" you. It's not like you're so wild that you will be cheating on her. It's just about being unpredictable. When I am mad at my girl, sometimes I'll let her go and not talk to her for day. Other times I'll pick a fight and complain. Other times when I let her go I only let her go for a few hours instead of a whole day. Sometimes I let things go while others I hold onto it for a bit. It's being unpredictable and exciting. NONE of these are extreme. I'm not constantly breaking up with her or getting into screaming matches. That's stupid. I just make sure I do something different every time.

    Besides, what does bad boy even mean? That you don't give a fark about anything? If that's the case she will definitely get tired of that routine. There's no roller coaster ride with that. The ones that women go crazy for are the ones that say they love her like no one else before, then cheat on her. It's mixed signals. She doesn't understand and has to figure him out. Figure him out and fix him. This is NOT a healthy relationship, but you can utilize some of these things in a more healthy fashion. And it just comes down to putting yourself first. Be selfish.
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    Default Re: Competing With Jerks and Bad Boys!

    wise words batman this was exactly the knowledge I was seeking today!

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    Default Re: Competing With Jerks and Bad Boys!

    Quote Originally Posted by BatMan View Post
    KingDaVinci...the way you post it's almost like you already know the answer lol.

    You seem knowledgeable enough so let me ask a couple of questions.

    How often do you argue with these women?

    What's the most romantic thing you've said to them?
    Sorry it took me this long to respond, Ive been really busy with my company lately which is a good thing actually. It's kind of hard to answer these questions because some of these girls I got into short term relationships that last a few months and some I just date for a month or two with no commitment.

    How often do I argue with these women?? It depends, usually things start out great, I keep dialing up her attraction, she seems to be getting more and more into me, but then suddenly things fizzle which usually happens right around the time they start hearing from their abusive exes. In that time, with most of them , we argue once every couple weeks. Would it help if we did argue more??

    What is the most romantic things Ive said to them?? I almost never say romantic shit to them so I honestly can't think of an answer. I rarely compliment them but when I do, they seem to really appreciate it and don't take it for granted. I don't do anything romantic until after a few months when she's earned it and I do things that are very spontaneous, original, and not wussy so it doesn't end it pushing her away.

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    Default Re: Competing With Jerks and Bad Boys!

    Wow, I am surprised so many men can relate to this. The only people Ive shared this problem with we're a couple buddies of mine that are AFC's who tried making me feel like it was MY problem and that I am the only guy that attracts women that go for or go back to their jerk ex boyfriends (these friends are classic AFCs who have miserable dating lives so I knew not to take it to heart)

    I get that I need to be more spontaneous, maybe put my foot down, have tighter boundaries, but I still feel like maybe just having a bad boy edge (like sprinkling on as if it were a spice) could really be the most effective way to get this area handled. It's just a fact, if I want to continue attracting, dating, and f'ing 9s and 10s, I'm going to have to compete with jerks or bad boys so I have to find the best way to keep these women coming back to ME.

    My solution thus far, which is based on what Ive learned from your responses and my own conclusions, are:
    - Have a bad boy edge including style of dress, attitude, body language, frame all of which conveys strong boundaries and that I won't and don't put up with her or anyone's bs
    - That I do what I want first and foremost, she comes second,
    - Occasionally flake out on her to help her appreciate the 85% of the time that I don't flake out
    - Be very spontaneous
    - Always be in control of the relationship from the minor details to the big decisions
    - Give her orgasms everyday
    - Argue you with her just for the purpose of putting her in check and keeping her on her toes and the makeup process/sex
    - NEVER, EVER ACT LIKE A WUSS

    What do you guys think? Any of these bad ideas or are any good ideas?? Suggestions?? Comments?? Questions??


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