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    Default Competing With Jerks and Bad Boys!

    In all of my success with women and dating, a common challenge Ive come across, with probably 1/3 of the women I date, is meeting and dating great women who seem to have a bad boy ex boyfriend who mistreats them, cheats on them, and are even abusive in which they are constantly in and on again and off again relationship with.

    Now let me explain that I get why amazing, beautiful women go for bad boys. They are attracted to 5 qualities that all bad boys and jerks have: They are confident (though its not real confidence), a challenge, spontaneous (not boring, wussy, predictable), display high Social Status, and controlling (though its an unhealthy form of control). I have learned to extract these same qualities but apply them in a healthy way. I am confident, a challenge, take control, am very spontaneous, and constantly demonstrate high social status.

    However, I have a handful of women up and leave me for their jerk ex boyfriend even though they are abusive, cheat, and mistreat them horribly. I know some might say it's the women but I assure you, most of these women have it together, have amazing personalities, and aren't insecure.

    So have any experienced this same issue?? How do you keep her interest and attraction so she doesn't up and leave??? What's your take on this issue??

    I really want to figure out what I'm doing wrong here. Thanks for the advice guys.

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    Default Re: Competing With Jerks and Bad Boys!

    trust me its not the women. i had the same problem and youll continue having it until you unwillingly adopt the last bad boy characteristic that is the stem of the other five. THEY DONT GIVE A FUCKK! and after getting fucked over by a couple more youll be in the same place as they are.

    they want them because theyre the guys that dont give them attention. you know how girls want guys that are different? the guy that doesnt want them is the differnt one in todays world.
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    Default Re: Competing With Jerks and Bad Boys!

    KingDaVinci...the way you post it's almost like you already know the answer lol.

    You seem knowledgeable enough so let me ask a couple of questions.

    How often do you argue with these women?

    What's the most romantic thing you've said to them?
    "All things are subject to interpretation. Whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth."

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    Default Re: Competing With Jerks and Bad Boys!

    Quote Originally Posted by BatMan View Post
    KingDaVinci...the way you post it's almost like you already know the answer lol.

    You seem knowledgeable enough so let me ask a couple of questions.

    How often do you argue with these women?

    What's the most romantic thing you've said to them?

    So what is the answer BatMan?
    It has happened to me twice last year and I somehow could not figure it out!
    @Dalton I honestly do not give a fuck!
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    Default Re: Competing With Jerks and Bad Boys!

    if you genuinely didnt give a fuck, then it wouldnt even come to mind. i dont really know how to explain the transition because i didnt say "i dont want this to happen to me, so im going figure it out before it does." nah it took four of the most memorable women and quite a few others in between fucking me over and leaving me for their jackass ex boyfriends. eventually you just kinda stop caring.

    also id like to hear the answers to batmans questions from kingdavinci first. theres a reason batnans one of the best contributors on here and we dont wanna get in the way of his teaching do we xm?
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    Default Re: Competing With Jerks and Bad Boys!

    Haha I have no answers. Just opinions. I wouldn't want anyone to take what I say as absolute. But I do have some strong opinions on this matter.
    "All things are subject to interpretation. Whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth."

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    Default Re: Competing With Jerks and Bad Boys!

    Quote Originally Posted by daltonbrayall View Post
    if you genuinely didnt give a fark, then it wouldnt even come to mind. i dont really know how to explain the transition because i didnt say "i dont want this to happen to me, so im going figure it out before it does." nah it took four of the most memorable women and quite a few others in between farking me over and leaving me for their jackass ex boyfriends. eventually you just kinda stop caring.

    also id like to hear the answers to batmans questions from kingdavinci first. theres a reason batnans one of the best contributors on here and we dont wanna get in the way of his teaching do we xm?
    So it can not be the attitude that you do not give a fuck cause they still leave. I did get to f close a couple of times a girl, but I could not really amplify the attraction. This girl said that I have all the characteristics she wants of being confident, making her feel secure, dominant, displaying high Social Status just like her ex without being abussive, but somehow she is not really falling in love with me. She did saying in a joking manner that if I were to chase her with an axe that it would turn her on. I really did not give a fuck that time, but it still did not work out with her. The question is what is the reason if you portray the charactertics of being alpha without being the jerk and some girls prefer the jerks.
    I do think that it is partly the women and not me. Just like some girls like SM!

    Quote Originally Posted by BatMan View Post
    Haha I have no answers. Just opinions. I wouldn't want anyone to take what I say as absolute. But I do have some strong opinions on this matter.
    Dalton was really praising your wisdom so if you have no answers then share your opinions.

    In my opinion what would work with such girls is that you need to give them an emotional roller coaster.
    Make the impossible possible!

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    Default Re: Competing With Jerks and Bad Boys!

    HA! Exactly! An emotional rollercoaster. I knew you knew it.

    Being cool and confident is great and all. But it all exudes one main thing...control. But what about when you lose it? What about when you CAN'T control yourself around her? Maybe you "slip up" and say the "L" word. Maybe you try to keep your hands off her, but you can't. Maybe you try to open up to her, but shut down in the middle of it.

    When she knows that she has an affect on you that makes you lose control, she feels powerful. Then when you do something that shows she never had control it'll confuse her. She wants to know she has that affect on you. That you care. But when you show you care you then show that you don't. What's going on? How can someone care at first, then not care? Did she do something wrong? Is there some internal issues your having? She must know!

    Congratulations. You have just become her puzzle to solve. Women go back to their bad boy exes for one simple reason.........hope. Hope that things will be different. That things will be better this time around. He is a puzzle she needs to solve. A problem she must fix.

    How can a woman have hope with you if you don't show she has an affect on you? An affect so strong that she inspires you to actually change your ways (Such as becoming exclusive). She doesn't like you having it all together. Being in control all the time. She wants a place in your life. A place she can feel needed. So when you do lose your cool or lose control of yourself, she feels like she's the only one that can bring you back.

    Have you ever been with a woman who always kept her cool? Didn't you want her to at least yell at you one time? Just to get that feeling that she does give a shit about you and isn't playing a role? Why else would couples bicker at each other after years of marriage? Because the husband may have stopped caring and she wants passion and emotion. And the only way she can get it is if she picks a fight with him about putting the silverware away. It's probably the only time she gets to see that emotion in him.

    So lose yourself. Let her have that affect on you. So she feels needed. This is the purest form of push/pull without any wordplay gambits that we use in the first few min with a woman. By letting her in a little bit, but then slam to door because she got too close. It's like watching your favorite tv show. They don't reveal everything at once and always leave you wanting more.

    This was a bit of a ramble, but it's because there's so much more to say. Just remember...I'm just a guy with an opinion. So feel free to be skeptical.
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    Default Re: Competing With Jerks and Bad Boys!

    Quote Originally Posted by BatMan View Post
    HA! Exactly! An emotional rollercoaster. I knew you knew it.
    Actually I did not know it, but this is what my gut feeling told me

    Quote Originally Posted by BatMan View Post

    When she knows that she has an affect on you that makes you lose control, she feels powerful. Then when you do something that shows she never had control it'll confuse her. She wants to know she has that affect on you. That you care. But when you show you care you then show that you don't. What's going on? How can someone care at first, then not care? Did she do something wrong? Is there some internal issues your having? She must know!

    Congratulations. You have just become her puzzle to solve. Women go back to their bad boy exes for one simple reason.........hope. Hope that things will be different. That things will be better this time around. He is a puzzle she needs to solve. A problem she must fix.

    How can a woman have hope with you if you don't show she has an affect on you? An affect so strong that she inspires you to actually change your ways (Such as becoming exclusive). She doesn't like you having it all together. Being in control all the time. She wants a place in your life. A place she can feel needed. So when you do lose your cool or lose control of yourself, she feels like she's the only one that can bring you back.

    Have you ever been with a woman who always kept her cool? Didn't you want her to at least yell at you one time? Just to get that feeling that she does give a sh1t about you and isn't playing a role? Why else would couples bicker at each other after years of marriage? Because the husband may have stopped caring and she wants passion and emotion. And the only way she can get it is if she picks a fight with him about putting the silverware away. It's probably the only time she gets to see that emotion in him.

    So lose yourself. Let her have that affect on you. So she feels needed. This is the purest form of push/pull without any wordplay gambits that we use in the first few min with a woman. By letting her in a little bit, but then slam to door because she got too close. It's like watching your favorite tv show. They don't reveal everything at once and always leave you wanting more.
    So what you are saying is to argue with her for the sake of arguing and at another time when the same situation arises show her that you care less and be romantic? You do that to confuse her?!
    Make the impossible possible!

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    Default Re: Competing With Jerks and Bad Boys!

    What Batman says is all true but don't forget that women love to feel emotions whether there good or bad. Jerks make them feel emotions all the time maybe 30% of the time it's good emotions and 70% of the time it's bad or leaving them pissed off. Being pissed off is still a strong emotion and to them it's better than a nice guy who makes them feel good 60% of the time but bored the other 40% of the time. ( by the way I don't usually work in percentages )

    My point is jerks all ways make them feel something, a roller coaster of emotions is exciting and keeps them wanting more.
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