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    Default Justifiers and Punishment

    Ok, i've read some of Vin Di Carlos books and the Justifier/Denier aspect and how some girls will 'test' you to see how much of a man you are. I'm not really sure how to punish justifiers though...Can anyone shed some light on how you are supposed to do this while still acting like a 'man' :/?

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    not talking to them and beeing indifferent to them
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    Default Re: Justifiers and Punishment

    how to deal with them ?????
    i have the same problem, she is ignoring me, and i do not know how to freeze her in a right way, and should i leave an impression before i start freezing her???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mdeino View Post
    how to deal with them ?????
    i have the same problem, she is ignoring me, and i do not know how to freeze her in a right way, and should i leave an impression before i start freezing her???
    U mean Freezing Her Out, no u shouldn't do anything except stop talking to her
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    Default Re: Justifiers and Punishment

    So if she start talking again. How i should respond?

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    In a non chalant way. Make her feel like she has to work to get u're attention back.
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    Default Re: Justifiers and Punishment

    Man, i have read most of your posts and answers on this site, I like them much and i believe that you have to create a topic about justifiers.

    Thanks for yours answers . Looking forward to your coming article about how to deal with justifiers/testers type.

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    Default Re: Justifiers and Punishment

    If you play it right, you can emphasize looking like a "man" by how you react to a Tester (I think you meant "Tester and Punishment" in your subject... Justifiers easily sleep with anyone because they "justify" sex as acceptable behavior). By their nature (like you read) they are going to try and test you to disqualify you as a potential mate. So when she throws one of her tests at you, sometimes simply "not playing the game" is a punishment in itself.

    Ignoring her works as a punishment, but equally so does not chasing her when she walks away. Not answering her when she throws (seemingly) random emotional fits, talking down to you and not giving into it, refusing to pick up her things or do things that she can easily do for her self. Those are examples of her testing you. She's looking to see if you're going to be a push over or "beta" to her.

    I'll give you an example from my life -- I had a girl who was a text-book-definition Playette (TDI I think.. been a while), and she pulled some test where she and I would make plans, and then she'd break them last minute frequently(text book behavior), so I established the mood that that was not ok. I didn't make an attempt to talk her and started hanging out with other people. About a week and half later, she asked why we didn't talk anymore and said she was sorry for her behavior. In this case, she expected me to keep trying to talk to her --- seeing if she had me wiped, and she didn't.

    An example of being tested from a tester would be her calling you a "player" (or some other emasculating phrase). To her, it's not so much what she said or what she's accusing you of, it's how you react to it. For example, if you stand up for yourself and tell her that's not ok, you run the risk of her walking away from you. In that case, what she said isn't so much the test, it's how you reacted to it. If she walks away she's expecting you to follow her or chase her --- trying anything to get her attention. That's what the test is.

    So in this example, by standing up for yourself and not following her and being overly apologetic for her "offending her", you've passed the test. And you're also displaying the qualities she's looking for -- you're not a push over, you stand up for yourself, you hold yourself to a value and maintain that ethic for yourself. Aka, being a "man", and that's what she's looking for.

    Sorry for the novel, hope it helped!

    -CM


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