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Thread: Failed 2 number closes in a row... where did I go wrong?

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    Default Failed 2 number closes in a row... where did I go wrong?

    So this is the first of 2 times I failed to N-Close... where did I go wrong?

    ME: So... do you have a job? I need someone to support me while I play video games all day

    HER: Haha niceee. But no I don't have a job
    ME:Lame... you just lost like, 10 points. Earn them back! What's 3 things that would make me want to get to know you better?
    HER:Hahah ouch I lost points? Well, I'm very funny and easy going, people usually like that. I'm also really smart and I'm sexy haha
    ME:Nice recovery, it doesn't get much better than smart and sexy.

    My name's *AFC* and no; I do not actually play video games all day

    HER:Haha oh good to know. Lol I'm *HB7*
    ME:Nice, so do you like hockey?
    HER:Aha sorta u?
    ME:it's one of my passions....my ex "sorta" liked hockey, too...
    HER:Haha what do u mean sorta?
    ME:she just watched it to "please" me as she liked to say. Definitely not cool
    HER:Oh hahaha by sorta I mean i like it I just don't watch it very often. I'm not much of a tv person, I can't usually sit still for that long and just stare at a screen aha.
    ME:Well, at least you're honest. But, answer me this: Do you floss before or after you brush?
    HER:Haha ummm. After usually lol why?
    ME:Good answer *I just realized now that it's a terrible answer*. You seem like a cool girl; you got a number?
    HER: Haha thanks and I have multiple numbers
    ME:Oh yeah, smart ass? :P How many, exactly?
    HER: ahah idk :P
    ME: mmmhhmmm....

    yeah so that's the first one.... I will post the other if requested. Fuck man, what did I do wrong?

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    Default Re: Failed 2 number closes in a row... where did I go wrong?

    How did you fail to Number Close? She shit tested you and you haven't even really failed the shit test yet. There is nothing wrong with this other than the fact that you gave up before the game was over.
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    Default Re: Failed 2 number closes in a row... where did I go wrong?

    Lmao that's literally the opening message I sent to my now current LTR. (She knows this btw. Don't go tattletelling on me.)

    It seems you were still in the beginning stages. So too early to ask for the number. But you are off to a very good start in my opinion. You know how to keep it lively and entertaining. You simply shot the gun too early.

    Here's a nice little tip that I learned. I only asked for the number when SHE started asking ME questions about myself. I would not ask before that. And guess what. It worked EVERY time. Now, not everyone starts asking questions about me. That simply means that you shouldn't go for the number. Once in a while you get lucky, but we are PUA's and aren't in the business of getting lucky. So wait for her to start asking you personal questions and you're golden. Here is a thread I made on really engaging questions to ask her that aren't the typical questions.
    "All things are subject to interpretation. Whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth."

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    Default Premature Fire

    Quote Originally Posted by BatMan View Post
    I only asked for the number when SHE started asking ME questions about myself. I would not ask before that. And guess what. It worked EVERY time. Now, not everyone starts asking questions about me. That simply means that you shouldn't go for the number. Once in a while you get lucky, but we are PUA's and aren't in the business of getting lucky. So wait for her to start asking you personal questions and you're golden.
    I knew about the Number Close and how to do it, but I never knew any of the mechanics behind it, and reading the whole conversation at first I had no clue what indicators to get over whether it would be wise or not to number close. Thanks a ton for this Batman!

    I would also agree that the conversation looks perfect. Awesome hockey neg, very spontaneous conversation, played the game well. However, there is one thing that I am feeling is missing in this conversation reading it over and over.

    Naturality.

    It feels like you are spitting out mechanical stuff in the beginning. That may just be me though, considering I have seen this opener multiple times. I wouldn't use that opener, at least now considering I'm still in college, but in the future I see potential for me.

    I like to try to stay natural and use what feels the best for me though because that's what helps to get across what kind of person I am. This also means though that if I see an opener or conversation topic that fits me the best, I will use it.
    "There is no better than adversity. Every defeat, every heartbreak, every loss, contains its own seed, its own lesson on how to improve your performance the next time." - Malcolm X

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    Default Re: Failed 2 number closes in a row... where did I go wrong?

    Anyone got any advice on turning those contacts online into actual dates?

    I've gotten a couple numbers from girls online, yet they always end up not texting back when I text them. I don't know if it's that I'm waiting too long to text? (I do actually wait like 3 or 4 days, which probably isn't good). I think by waiting too long that initial interest has worn off and they don't give a sh!t

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    Default Re: Failed 2 number closes in a row... where did I go wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by scguitar View Post
    Anyone got any advice on turning those contacts online into actual dates?

    I've gotten a couple numbers from girls online, yet they always end up not texting back when I text them. I don't know if it's that I'm waiting too long to text? (I do actually wait like 3 or 4 days, which probably isn't good). I think by waiting too long that initial interest has worn off and they don't give a sh!t
    I text as soon as I get the number. Use it as a reason to give her your number. Or to tease her about giving me a false number. When I get a girl who gives me a hard time about getting the number I text her with "So punk, after all that this better be your number!"
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    Default Re: Failed 2 number closes in a row... where did I go wrong?

    Try to meet the girl up first, then # close then

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    Default Re: Failed 2 number closes in a row... where did I go wrong?

    I totally agree with TheDuke! You should've ran with it because it was far from over! My thought is that if you think you've failed, don't stop! You can probably still learn a thing or two just by dragging it on, and you might even recover and learn a new trick!

    I would've danced around it as if I was kidding. Say something like "I meant your favourite jersey number, Why would I want your phone number so early, you might be a stalker like the last girl!". Try thinking of ways to misrepresent your true intention so that if she sh1t tests you, you can just say YOU THOUGHT "Y"? I MEANT "X"!

    Quote Originally Posted by ConversationallySpea king View Post
    Try to meet the girl up first, then # close then

    I don't remember where I read it, but it was somewhere on here. It went along the lines of saying that no respectable man would meet with a girl before speaking with her on the phone. It makes a lot of sense, and here's why:

    A guy who has a lot of options doesn't have time to be flaked on, dodged, or lied to. If you establish the same or more of a pleasant feeling on the phone as you did with the online conversation, only then is the meet-up worth while. Otherwise you have no idea who you're meeting. You can progress in creating comfort over the phone and make sure she will show up for the date too.
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    Default Re: Failed 2 number closes in a row... where did I go wrong?

    Haha. I have tried that opener and I have also tried the Do you have a job because I am super high maintenance. And most of the replies I have gotten are b1tchy so I neg them by saying that I must have mistaken them for someone with a sense of humor and that they had their cranky pants on. It normally dies off from that. Lol. But I have had decent results online and I don't see a problem really. Just reengage her in a few days and go from there.
    Any of you guys in the Dayton Oh area let me know and we will sarge.


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